If he told them to jump of a cliff and they did, would that be his fault? Anyone who believes what others say without actually knowing the facts is a danger to themselves. Don't blame others for your own stupidity.
It's up to each and every person in this world to make their own decisions based on, not what people tell them to believe, but what your own common sense; deduction; reasoning or intuition tells you. Blaming others for your own actions is for cowards and stupid people. Beliefs of any kind should be evaluated before they become YOUR belief. That's called "thinking before acting" not blind faith.
That is your conclusion -- your assumption. Do you personally know even 1 person who admitted to taking the shot/s, because 'Trump convinced me they were safe' and 'Trump told me I'd be saved because I got the shot/s' ? I don't know any such person.
When are people going to finally once and for all take responsibility for their OWN decisions? Versus, blaming another because they are not capable or willing to do their own investigations? Or blindly assume authority figures know best? I never considered getting the jab, because I did my own research.
First - Trump was wrong to promote the shots, but Trump cannot convince anyone of anything. When you say that, you are disempowering others by not seeing them as autonomous beings who make their own choices.
Second - you say Trump lied, as if he ignored the truth and set out to deceive the people so many would suffer and die earlier. Where is your proof and/or evidence? Or is this purely your opinion? Could he have been ill-advised and badly misinformed?
This is not a valid comparison, J.L. We have been told for decades to "ask your doctor", "get your annual physical", "take your medication" and on and on and people have been brain-washed to trust the medical profession and their "leaders". We have not been told repeatedly to jump off a cliff, plus unlike the mysteries of medicine, we can see the edge of a cliff and would be more likely to question that advice. This was not about stupidity; it was about fear and trust.
How come some people "get brain-washed"? And some don't? Is it easier to "go along to get along"? Why do people watch television? And believe the news? And believe doctors? I was curious about the medical profession and became a Surg. Tech in a hospital (just to see what's up). What a "movie" that was! Yeah, I quit when I got my fill. I've been observing life my entire Life and I don't play well in the sandbox....well, I don't play in the sandbox; I have my own.
Well I was born fearless and I don't trust (I have always questioned everything). Parents pain-in-the-ass child who wanted to know "WHY?".....they would just say, "Because we said so!". I've been curious about everything; travelled/hitchiked/bicyled throughout the world; worked various well-paid jobs; bought and lived on a sailboat; married; had a child.....I've lived a lot of ways and seen how life is. I hate TV; I read ALOT and I DON'T TRUST what I CAN'T PROVE to be true. AND!! I DON'T LIKE BEING LED AND DON'T NEED 'LEADERSHIP'.!! So, I feel free from programming from ANY authority; which I don't like either! Those were the way I chose to live. So that's where the term "sheeple" comes from; people that need leaders...I guess. Oh, and guess what? I come from working class people, so I paid my own way for my adventures because I was raised to have a good work ethic but I never wanted to "be" anything (professionally) I'm the only black sheep amongst five siblings.
Here's a serious question for Trump supporters. He's seen the VAERS data, the tens of thousands of testimonials of injured patients, seen Senator Ron Johnson's hearings on covid, the vaccines and hospital protocols for covid. Why hasn't he warned his fellow Americans about the dangers of the vaccines? With his huge platform and hundreds of millions of followers, he could call for the removal of the vaccines from the market and create such an outcry that they would be compelled to remove them. Why hasn't he done that? He floods my mail-box daily, telling me how much he loves me and the American people. Why won't he warn his fellow Americans, who he professes to love, to save their lives? The cognitive dissonance and the mental gymnastics Trump supporters perform to allow them to sleep at night blows my mind. His supporters will bring up hydroxychloroquine and refusing to mandate the vaccines, which is great, but if you ask them why he promotes the vaccines as safe and effective, they go absolutely crazy. Why is that?
How tf dod Trump kill them? You’re fkn insane.
"How tf dod Trump kill them?"
He told the people the vaxxines were safe.
Sadly people believed him.
If he told them to jump of a cliff and they did, would that be his fault? Anyone who believes what others say without actually knowing the facts is a danger to themselves. Don't blame others for your own stupidity.
"If he told them to jump of a cliff and they did, would that be his fault?"
If he LIED to them and told them it would make them safe, yes it is very much his fault.
It's up to each and every person in this world to make their own decisions based on, not what people tell them to believe, but what your own common sense; deduction; reasoning or intuition tells you. Blaming others for your own actions is for cowards and stupid people. Beliefs of any kind should be evaluated before they become YOUR belief. That's called "thinking before acting" not blind faith.
It wasn't blind faith J.L., it was FEAR.
Donald Trump convinced the World that there was a genocidal virus. People BELIEVED him.
Then he told the terrified people that the vaxxines would save them. And the terrified people believed him.
That is your conclusion -- your assumption. Do you personally know even 1 person who admitted to taking the shot/s, because 'Trump convinced me they were safe' and 'Trump told me I'd be saved because I got the shot/s' ? I don't know any such person.
When are people going to finally once and for all take responsibility for their OWN decisions? Versus, blaming another because they are not capable or willing to do their own investigations? Or blindly assume authority figures know best? I never considered getting the jab, because I did my own research.
Time to end the blame game.
But Trump is to be blamed, because he LIED.
Donald Trump LIED about the virus and then he LIED about the vaxxines.
And people are dying because Donald Trump LIED.
Same troll all over substack using a different name
Nope Kathy, same troll, same name!
First - Trump was wrong to promote the shots, but Trump cannot convince anyone of anything. When you say that, you are disempowering others by not seeing them as autonomous beings who make their own choices.
Second - you say Trump lied, as if he ignored the truth and set out to deceive the people so many would suffer and die earlier. Where is your proof and/or evidence? Or is this purely your opinion? Could he have been ill-advised and badly misinformed?
Trump lied about the virus, he said there was a deadly virus. There never was. Trump LIED.
Trump lied about the vaxxines, he said they were safe. They are not. Trump LIED.
And if he was "ill-advised" then Donald Trump is the stupidest president we've ever had.
35million vaxxed are dead.
Donald Trump has killed more Americans than all our wars combined.
Proberta, the same troll all over substack using different names...
You totally ignored both parts of my last comment.
Without proof or even evidence of 'lies' this is merely your conclusion - your personal opinion' and I do not expect you'll change it for anything.
This conversation is at a dead end.
This is not a valid comparison, J.L. We have been told for decades to "ask your doctor", "get your annual physical", "take your medication" and on and on and people have been brain-washed to trust the medical profession and their "leaders". We have not been told repeatedly to jump off a cliff, plus unlike the mysteries of medicine, we can see the edge of a cliff and would be more likely to question that advice. This was not about stupidity; it was about fear and trust.
How come some people "get brain-washed"? And some don't? Is it easier to "go along to get along"? Why do people watch television? And believe the news? And believe doctors? I was curious about the medical profession and became a Surg. Tech in a hospital (just to see what's up). What a "movie" that was! Yeah, I quit when I got my fill. I've been observing life my entire Life and I don't play well in the sandbox....well, I don't play in the sandbox; I have my own.
Well I was born fearless and I don't trust (I have always questioned everything). Parents pain-in-the-ass child who wanted to know "WHY?".....they would just say, "Because we said so!". I've been curious about everything; travelled/hitchiked/bicyled throughout the world; worked various well-paid jobs; bought and lived on a sailboat; married; had a child.....I've lived a lot of ways and seen how life is. I hate TV; I read ALOT and I DON'T TRUST what I CAN'T PROVE to be true. AND!! I DON'T LIKE BEING LED AND DON'T NEED 'LEADERSHIP'.!! So, I feel free from programming from ANY authority; which I don't like either! Those were the way I chose to live. So that's where the term "sheeple" comes from; people that need leaders...I guess. Oh, and guess what? I come from working class people, so I paid my own way for my adventures because I was raised to have a good work ethic but I never wanted to "be" anything (professionally) I'm the only black sheep amongst five siblings.
And sheeple to lead, of course.....just kidding!
Here's a serious question for Trump supporters. He's seen the VAERS data, the tens of thousands of testimonials of injured patients, seen Senator Ron Johnson's hearings on covid, the vaccines and hospital protocols for covid. Why hasn't he warned his fellow Americans about the dangers of the vaccines? With his huge platform and hundreds of millions of followers, he could call for the removal of the vaccines from the market and create such an outcry that they would be compelled to remove them. Why hasn't he done that? He floods my mail-box daily, telling me how much he loves me and the American people. Why won't he warn his fellow Americans, who he professes to love, to save their lives? The cognitive dissonance and the mental gymnastics Trump supporters perform to allow them to sleep at night blows my mind. His supporters will bring up hydroxychloroquine and refusing to mandate the vaccines, which is great, but if you ask them why he promotes the vaccines as safe and effective, they go absolutely crazy. Why is that?