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walter's avatar

If the earth is flat and domed as it seems...then this pole shifting is all nonsense and fear mongering.

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Proberta's avatar

Walter, the best evidence of the regularly occurring Pole Shift is the geology of the Earth's crust, which shows that every 25,00 years (or 5,000, or 500 years depending on whichever corrupted math you use) the Earth's magnetic axis flips and what was tropical becomes arctic, and what was arctic becomes tropical (the Great Flood is actually the Great Melting!).

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aldous huxtable's avatar

If the earth was flat the discussion would receive as much censorship as everything else true but concealed and yet the theory marches forward unabated.

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Bev's avatar

I assume the powers that be know it causes division so it is welcomed.

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Amii's avatar

I agree! To be honest I really don't know what the shape of the earth is? They've lied to us about everything we've ever been taught! We have to research for the truth and unlearn the lies that we've been taught! In looking at all the information about the earth being flat and not exactly a globe I'm leaning towards the earth being flat or not what we've been taught. When people look for the globe evidence the question of "where is the curvature?" comes up. Even pilots say everything looks flat and that they don't have to adjust for the curvature during their flight paths and that everything is level and in a straight line. Also when we see pictures of the earth 🌎 that's supposedly taken out in space we're always shown computer generated images and not real photos of the earth spinning out in space! So we have all of these different theories available to us and people argue over these different theories and this keeps people divided so none of us can be sure of what the real truth is. So my question is "why would they lie about the shape of our planet?" The answer is to hide the fact that the earth was created by a Creator and everything on earth was created and planned by an intelligent Creator. This earth and all life on earth was created and nothing here is by accident. We're constantly told that humanity just happened by accident and that we're nothing special which helps these evil controllers keep humanity dumbed down along with everything else they do to us to keep us dumbed down and in the dark about the real truth.

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Bev's avatar

The thing that gets me is why they have the globe in all our classrooms since kindergarten and at the start of MGM movies. hahaha

I am not denying either/or.

God help us.

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Amii's avatar

They do that to laugh in our faces and mock us as well as lie to young children starting in kindergarten! The indoctrination starts young! Young children's little brains are like sponges and they soak up everything! There's a saying that states something like "give me a child for the first 7 years of life and I will be able to tell you what what kind of adult he or she will become" It's true that the first 7 years of life influences the mentality of a child. I've been thinking about this one lately myself because my parents divorced when I was 7years old! I was raised by a single mother who stayed bitter and angry and always had a negative outlook on life. I guess that explains my attitude at times because I can be quite a "Negative Nancy" at times! Especially with what's going on nowadays! I'm not very hopeful for the future or for future generations on this planet! I think we're doomed unless our Creator steps in to help us!

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Bev's avatar

Thankx for your comment Amii. I myself did research and was convinced by what I seen it was the firmament as in what you all call flat earth. Gen:1-6-8

But then I started reading into the saints and they talk about the universe. ??

Are we the universe? ...

I know it sounds crazy

Or is it a CIA experiment on us all.

My young adult kids won't talk to me about it cuz I did mention this to them but they've been indoctrinated in college so I won't bring it up to them again.

I think it would be best if we stay neutral since it doesn't matter for our salvation, as Jesus is my savior.

He said in the end times. the family would break up.

I won't allow it in my family.

I'll write them a letter.

Buzz Aldrin from Apollo 11 told us he never actually went to the moon.

Who to believe?

They want us so confused, it's pathetic.

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Amii's avatar

Yeah I saw in a video with Buzz Aldrin say that! A little girl asked him why they haven't been back to the moon? He said something like "we didn't go" "if it was possible" he said something like that, maybe not exactly like that but he definitely said they didn't go! I know these younger generations of kids are definitely indoctrinated. I only learned about this "flat earth theory within the past 5 years! I was like "huh? What on earth are they talking about?" "The earth is flat, that's ridiculous!"😆 I started thinking why are people saying that? Then I started looking and researching this topic. There's all kinds of documentaries and videos explaining this! Flat earth people doing interviews explaining this in detail! First it's mentioned in Scripture "the firmament" I knew it said that in the Bible but I really didn't think about what it meant! I just thought that "well back in ancient times they didn't have airplanes or space ships or could fly up high enough to see what the earth looked like!" I just thought that the authors of the Bible were calling the firmament the sky because as far as we know they didn't know what flying in airplanes was way back then! Saying that makes complete sense because I've learned about the global earth my whole life too and never questioned it I started looking into it! All these people who do experiments measuring distance and especially looking at a ship out in the ocean very far away through binoculars the person can still see the ship visible! They then explain if the earth was a globe 🌎 then that ship should have disappeared from the curvature at that distance and shouldn't be visible at all! If you are at the beach look out over the ocean at the horizon where the water meets the sky, it's a straight line, the water is level and if the earth was a globe then the water would show a curvature at the horizon! When people put this to the test on land too they always ask "where's the curvature?" It's a straight line! Like on a straight road if you look far enough ahead with binoculars that road should show a downward curvature after so many miles ahead but it's still visible in a straight level line! Wow 😯 So I started thinking that these people testing this theory have raised up some excellent points, indeed, where's the curvature? It looks flat as a pancake to me! I have no idea what shape the earth is now?" I just wish that the truth would be proven, either way if it's a globe or flat it won't upset me either way!

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Nick Giorgione's avatar

We live on a flat earth.........not a globe, so how can there be a polar shift ?

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Proberta's avatar

"so how can there be a polar shift?"

Well Nick, the best evidence of the regularly occurring Pole Shift is the geology of the Earth's crust, which shows that every 25,00 years (or 5,000, or 500 years depending on whichever corrupted math you use) the Earth's magnetic axis flips and what was tropical becomes arctic, and what was arctic becomes tropical (the Great Flood is actually the Great Melting!).

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

A MAGNETIC pole flip does NOT shift any climatic areas ...

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Proberta's avatar

"A MAGNETIC pole flip does NOT shift any climatic areas"

Can you elaborate please Klaus?

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Climatic areas depend of sun-rays incidence on Earth: Vertical between the tropics of Capricorn and Cancer (same as Earth-axis inclination) equals lost of heat and growth. Almost 0 degrees at the poles during day-night equality twice a year.

Magnetic shielding from cosmic radiation gets heavily disturbed and will pose mayor problems for advanced folks that have lots of electronic devices as well as health concerns due to more radiation reaching the skin and plants.

Nobody knows exactly how this is going to play out; it never happened in modern history.

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Proberta's avatar

"Nobody knows exactly how this is going to play out; it never happened in modern history."

jActually Klaus, core samples of the Earth's geology show that it has happened, and does happen regularly.

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Klaus Hubbertz's avatar

Please READ my comment !! I wrote: "it never happened in MODERN history"

With modern history, I mean humans that could record or left recording on the event.

Of course it happened and it will happen again; so what ??...

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Gram's avatar

Yup! Next shift; vapor canopy due 2040.

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Proberta's avatar

"Next shift; vapor canopy due 2040"

Yes, but I seriously doubt we'll be here for it! ;)

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Scott's avatar

Hellooo!

Earth is not a globe! We live under the firmament aka dome. Can't leave here. No asteroids.

I call bullshit on this.

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Hydrogen Garage's avatar

Sorry Bozo, the flat earth theroy is a CIA planned psyop, to stop this very subject. GO look it up, $atanic prei$t :Col. Michael Aquino pushed the flat earth logo.

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Nick Giorgione's avatar

It has been the magical spinning CGI globe that is the psyop.

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Proberta's avatar

The best evidence of the regularly occurring Pole Shift is the geology of the Earth's crust, which shows that every 25,00 years (or 5,000, or 500 years depending on whichever corrupted math you use) the Earth's magnetic axis flips and what was tropical becomes arctic, and what was arctic becomes tropical (the Great Flood is actually the Great Melting!).

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Eating To Ascend's avatar

I am not sure if it the 'best' evidence, but it is evidence nonetheless. All of the extrabiblical and apocryphal occulted texts discuss this, too.

In my second book, really a treatise of true history as well as detox, I discuss this very fact. And I learned while living in India that the gurus there know that this is earth's VERY LAST KALI YUGA, bit they don't talk about it for the same reasons that silenced Emmanuel Velikovsky.

https://eatingtoascend.com/2023/06/12/the-reason-you-likely-think-nibiru-is-a-conspiracy-theory/

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Proberta's avatar

I say its the best evidence ETA, because its DPF (Demonstrable Public Fact). Anything else would be just theory.

Yes, in the End Times Prophesies the Hopi were waaay ahead of everyone, and then second was the Hindustani with the Kali Yuga!

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Eating To Ascend's avatar

Not hair splitting but the Hindu cultures records predate the north american land mass' cultures.

And re: DPF, yes, we have to speak to people in the way they first accept, as the unlearn the lies.

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Ekoh's avatar

Are you a bot?

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Proberta's avatar

"Are you a bot?"

No, why do you ask Ekoh?

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Scott's avatar

You are deceived. Good luck.

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Proberta's avatar

Scoote, the best evidence of the regularly occurring Pole Shift is the geology of the Earth's crust, which shows that every 25,00 years (or 5,000, or 500 years depending on whichever corrupted math you use) the Earth's magnetic axis flips and what was tropical becomes arctic, and what was arctic becomes tropical (the Great Flood is actually the Great Melting!).

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Mark's avatar

yep....from the 'ice age' came the melting as the sun got (relatively) closer to the earth as it swayed on its axis;

this has been proven by Perma-Ice core samples where 'earth, ice, mud, earth, ice core samples have been raised;

can't argue with geological facts taken from the earth itself.

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Proberta's avatar

"can't argue with geological facts taken from the earth itself."

THANK YOU MARK!!!

Always nice to meet another who appreciates DPF, Demonstrable Public FACTS!

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Eating To Ascend's avatar

Think of Nibiru as God's wrecking ball. Jesus Christ - ENERGY AND LIGHT ITSELF - passes into the heaven's beneath the firmament when the torroidal electromagnetic field energy of Nibiru making its elliptical crossings becomes so much greater than earth's torroidal electromagnetic fields that He - CHRIST THE SOLAR FLASH OF THE RAPTURE WHICH ACTIVATES THE LATENT GENES OF TRUE BELIEVERS WHO SHARE HIS GENETIC CODE - comes in as a Tesseract, a WORMHOLE, if you will, and harpazos His Bride out. They call it a "magnetic superstorm that will cause and internet blackout" and maybe tactical nukes will come into play too, but we are under a dome and Christ will create an opening to call the church not destined for wrath to heaven, to come back when for Armageddon as His Army with Him. @Scoote, I write at length on this at https://eatingtoascend.com (since 2018) and my substack. Use keyword and tag searches.

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9/11 Revisionist's avatar

9/11, Tesla & the Military Industrial Complex Weapon Technology

What did Tesla have available for the MIC in 1943?

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-tesla-and-the-military-industrial

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Hydrogen Garage's avatar

Amen, we are on the same page, one accord King-of-the.net.

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Mark's avatar

does it matter if the earth is flat or not when it is floating in the void of the ether?;

or do you believe that the 'earth' is firmly planted where it is?; if so, what is it planted to?;

whether flat or globe, it would still need to be controlled by some type of force to stop us (earth) from too-ing and frow-ing in every which direction, and that force is indisputably magnetic.

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Clem's avatar

This is all Trump's fault.

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Gram's avatar

😂😂😂

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Proberta's avatar

"This is all Trump's fault"

I don't hold Trump responsible for the Pole Shift, just the llluminati's New World 0rder Agenda '21, the systematic depopulation of the Earth, which Donald "I am the father of the vaxxine" Trump initiated in, oh wow,,,,,.2021!

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Eating To Ascend's avatar

Thanks for the lol =)

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Josh's avatar

Of course of course everything since antiquity is Trumps fault

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Mary Wrenne's avatar

Please see www.vaticancatholic.com also known as mostholyfamilymonastery.com

There Is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church! We are in the end times! Prayers, penance, fasting and conversion……. God bless you!

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Lynne Whitehead's avatar

My salvation fortunately don’t depend on corrupt popes and cardinals. It is fully and absolutely in Christ Jesus. For by His Grace we are saved in faith that He and He alone is way. For none will come to the Farther but through Christ.

Please accept Christ our Lord as your saviour. Not any human on this earth can give you ‘absolution’. Only Christ who died on the cross for you and me. He has paid the price for our salvation. None other can ever do that for you.

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Mary Wrenne's avatar

Lynn! You are incorrect! It’s a dogma that There Is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church! The Bible Proves The Teachings of the Traditional Catholic Church! You’ll find proof of these truth at www.vaticancatholic.com

The Benedictine Monks at Most Holy Family Monastery in New York will answer your questions when you ask them to. Email address is mhfm1@aol.com

Thank you and God bless you from Ireland.

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Brigadoon's avatar

Dutchsinse has taught me a lot over the years. I appreciate his contribution to the truth and wish him well- may he thrive and prosper and may the state level forces implode and collapse from the weight of their mountain of lies misdirects and shenanigans.

One of the last things Dutch was working on was mapping the vast network of interconnected ancient starforts all over the planet - and presenting evidence he had discovered of an even larger starfort system - (hundreds of miles of ramparts in all directions for each node) that he was showing were laid out to correlate with the earth's natural energy grid system of leylines. The evidence of such a vast and ancient grid system of megolithic structures threatens to destroy all existing narratives we are told about the history of humanity - and the true nature of energy and source potential in our realm. I think Dutchsinse was on the verge of connecting the dots between his working knowledge of the forces at play in the earth's crust- with current tech used to manipulate these forces, and this ancient grid system that he was speculating was some sort of massive planetary power system. No wonder they wanted to shut Dutch down.

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mejbcart's avatar

https://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/seismo.real.time.map.html

also all the thesis works related to the official science at Berkeley touching the geo-field:

https://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/theses/index.html

Berkeley. Stanford, et al. are not only the tip in genetics/eugenics...

Also, somebody needs to start recording positions on a compass device placed statically in one spot... Shouldn't NIST be doing it anyway?

Also isn't geomagnetic field stemming from the apparent internal liquid IRON core circulating WITH the circulating earth and thus changing its direction at all times, all so nicely formulated by Newton, without taking any magnetic field into account, and later supported by the super-genius Einstein in his field equations, in which stress and energy, thus magnetic field should play a role in the free falling of everything? Here again NIST watches it at all times, the gravitational constant...

Taxpayers, do not worry, your NIST is doing their job, like they did in the 9/11 investigation case...

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RS Weir's avatar

I've never seen more phucking fruit-cake comments.

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Martin Melendez's avatar

Glad you included Suspicious 0bservers channel. Ben is 100% over the target. Just like you. Your work is much appreciated, Greg. Your videos are top quality and I always share them on Gab and Truth Social.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Dutch Since 2 weeks ago describes his denial of service including Elon Musk's Starlink! - https://youtu.be/ZSLsAPRvQx4

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Harold Saive's avatar

Dutch Since streaming online 4 days ago at 360p low resolution. - https://youtu.be/A4_yhzar000?t=83

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GG's avatar

Noticed no geese flew over this year heading south for winter...wondered if magnetic field was getting weaker

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Et's Cinema PsychoMasonica's avatar

They were a complete no show over Texas this Fall. Also almost no Monarch butterflies. I have people from up north telling me the geese and ducks never left there.

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ZRENO's avatar

I see the no curvature/ pole shift contradiction has been covered. Is it a Double bluff? A Triple?!! GREG, I know you know of Jason Breshears at Archaix. The Phoenix is definitely worth throwing in the theory soup.

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Ellen's avatar

FIRMament....enough said......God said it, designed it, created it, and set in FIRM along with the ONLY planet God Himself ever mentions in His Word....EARTH....immovable Earth....and I believe HIM !!! ..He tells you in HIS WORD !! DUST IT OFF AND READ IT !! IT IS AN AMAZING HISTORICAL BOOK written for us !!! ...."The grass withers and flowers fade but MY WORD STANDS FOREVER"....thus saith The One True God The Creater of all things.

Most Everyone .in this comment section is quick to argue what this person says or that person says, or maps, or science, or their nieghbor, ect.....Go see and read WHAT THE ONE WHO CREATED IT HAS TO SAY !! IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IS THE FIRST AND FINAL PLACE WHERE TRUTH WOULD BE FOUND.....PLEASE WAKE UP TO HIS WORD...HE TELLS YOU !! ...I say these words in love praying that people would just OPEN the Book and discover all the amazing things written within its pages for they are LIFE to those who find it. May the Blesdings of The Most High overtake you all...Praise His Holy Name.

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The Bread Report's avatar

Please. If you understand the true cosmology of the earth you know that this is nonsense. DEWs yes. Earthquakes man-made Yes. Pole flip No. Know that they are up to something and need some cover

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Proberta's avatar

"Pole flip No."

Bread, the best evidence of the regularly occurring Pole Shift is the geology of the Earth's crust, which shows that every 25,00 years (or 5,000, or 500 years depending on whichever corrupted math you use) the Earth's magnetic axis flips and what was tropical becomes arctic, and what was arctic becomes tropical (the Great Flood is actually the Great Melting!).

And its also shown in prehistoric creatures found flash-frozen in thirty feet of solid ice with tropical vegetation still in their mouths!

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DawnieR's avatar

Noooooooo!.......Michael (Dutch) QUIT????!! Noooooo!!!! He was doing a GREAT SERVICE to Humanity!! He (and his wife) should pack up and LEAVE Missouri, and move to a 'Red State' that has CONSTITUTIONAL SHERIFF'S that will NOT allow the Feds to fuck with him! I wouldn't stop, if I were in his shoes! But, Dutch DID make a 'How To' vid, to do this stuff on our own. Wonder if that vid is still up?! I would SUE these EVIL, Satan-worshiping pieces of shit! Move to a 'Red State', then SUE!

This is TERRIBLE news!!

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DragonG's avatar

Dutchsinse (I've heard it's pronounced dutch-sensei) has uploaded captured video images of weather weapons creating typhoons, Haiyan in question that hit pacific islands some years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzxTXk1JCFw

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DawnieR's avatar

I've seen most of his vids; been following Michael for many years. And it's pronounced Dutch 'SINCE'.

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DragonG's avatar

Ok.

In the above clip he shows triangulation of possible sources of microwaves creating the storms.

Bet Maui was another storm all-of-a-sudden to coincide with the power lines falling onto untrimmed trees where since FEMA was caught meeting days before Lahaina happened to discuss where to put the barriers within Lahaina, would make a weather weapon generated storm to appear in the right place days before the "act of God" hence how would they have known a storm was coming if these are natural occurrences?

Josh Sigurdson filed this report last Oct 2023 about Mexico being hit by intense winds that appeared out of nowhere.

https://conspiracyfact.info/watch?id=653c2e7d22794491bcca2626

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Gram's avatar

What??? Was he threatened? Blackmailed? Bought off?

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DawnieR's avatar

He's been being fucked with, for YEARS! He just didn't know by 'who'. They've even 'gotten at his' at HIS HOME! (fking with his car, ect)

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Class-Punk's avatar

I'm not too worried because for me the probability points to a secret space human military alliance allied with positive ET's will prevent humanity from facing global cataclysms, not to say they won't happen. I'm convinced the 5D ascension will most likely come, most likely after or during a Q disclosure global scare event. But I'm not trying to go into argumentation and sourcing with these statements or debate, just a summary from the dots I've connected and probabilities I've come to from public information.

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Proberta's avatar

"...a secret space human military alliance allied with positive ET's"

Ugh, White Hat Hopium.

The CabaI's QAnon Scam drug of choice for the masses.

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Mark's avatar

it appears to be a very powerful drug...kinda like super fentanyl only the users don't fall asleep where they are standing.

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Proberta's avatar

LOL'd Mark!

Yes, White Hat Hopium is a very powerful drug. It is paralytic, induces delusion, severe cognitive dissonance, and suppresses critical thinking ability! ;)

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Mark's avatar

it seems that critical thinking left the building on-mass during the ConVid1984 Show...yes, that was also "a movie" and it "had it be this way" for people to wake up; "it is all part of the plan"....."trust the plan"; ah yup...ok then;

so what about all the millions that have been murdered by the needle from No.45's 'operation warp speed' and the millions more who are now permanently maimed?;

what about the US using Ukraine as a proxy for a war against Russia in which 100's of thousands have died?;

what about the US using Israhell, or more like Israhell using the US to wipe out what is left of the Palestinian peoples while pushing for a full scale WW starting in the Middle East?;

apparently No.45 is still the Commander-In-Chief so killing Millions upon Millions if not Billions of people must be a big part of 'trusting the plan'....you know, the plan to run a never-ending theatrical production to wake up the masses to the corruption going on within the world's governments......

"the show must go on".....roll back the curtain.

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Proberta's avatar

"what about the US using Ukraine as a proxy for a war against Russia"

What about Trump bombing the hell out of Syria killing civilians, women and children?!?!?!!!

They don't even mention that, its like it never happened! TOTAL COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!!!

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Mark's avatar

True....but all the Trumpidians will tell you there was never any war with Trump...

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Class-Punk's avatar

A common appeal to emotion logical fallacy wrapped up in an absolutist statement, along with being bad faith communication which suggests an ignorance of that reducing distributed cognition, isn't the type of indicator of superior critical-thinking around an alternative opinion that will stop me from knowing from my own research to relax. And I'm not the only one having non-physical contact with seemingly loving ET's either. Believe what you want to though and have a good day.

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Proberta's avatar

Well Class, if your research has led you to believe that the "White Hats" are in control, then I say just keep trusting the popcorn and eating The Plan!

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