Come on Greg. This is not new. All of it is occultic. Hidden from view from over 6,000 years ago. Now Roman Catholicism is many things as you rightly point out. But Christian is NOT one of them. Absolutely nothing about the RCC is Christian. It is fraud from Peter to the papacy. From IHS to pedophilia. Christ did NOT come to His people to establish any church.
He is the WAY. He is the TRUTH. And He is the LIFE. Many men have made many attempts to grab what the Son of the Living God arrived on this earth the first time to do and make it in their own corrupt image. All have failed. Most of it went to the dustbin of history. Some of it was commandeered by occult satanic forces and we see a grand display of them in the “major religions of the world” list. But never accuse Christ and his followers of participation in that group. That includes every named “denomination” within this list. They are among the guilty of the shedding of the blood of Christ.
Amen! We differentiate that between being “religious” and being a “born again follower of Jesus”. I’m the latter, thank God! 😀. A broken sinner who tries to spread love to all
Christianity is not the religion of Jesus the Son of Man, it is the religion of Paul of Tarsus. The loving Creator Son taught against animal sacrifice. God is a loving father who forgives us of our sins. There is no original sin...it's mankind growing and evolving and making mistakes.
Why did they sacrifice in the Old Testament. I know we are taught to atone for sins and that Jesus was the lamb of God and sacrificing animals with no longer necessary. I’ve always had a hard time with that in the old testament. God created all creatures and to kill animals seems sad.
Sacrifices were not what you might think on the surface. The animal was used in whole and did not go to waste. In fact, one of the sacrifices, called the “communion sacrifice” during the ‘festival of booths’ one would share in the cooked meat with there family, and it was as if you were having a meal or sharing a meal with God.
The so called “Old Testament”, or the Hebrew Scriptures really is a collection of the Torah (first five Books of Moses), the Prophets, and the Writings (Proverbs, Psalms, Job, etc).
This first section details the Creation, the fall of man from perfection to sin, and rebellion in the heavens which affects us on Earth. (I can go into detail if you want)
Various Covenants or agreements are introduced. These are contracts. For example, the Marriage Covenant was introduced and then there is the Edenic Covenant (the first Prophecy concerning a Savior), then the personal Covenants with Noah, Abraham, David… the Rainbow Covenant after the flood (God promised not to ever destroy the Earth with water, the Rainbow is a sign and reminder of His promise)… then there is also the Mosaic Covenant and the Priestly Covenant… the Covenant of Circumcision, and others I’m forgetting. Then there was the Law Covenant. This is really where Judaism sprang from. The “Law” started with the first Ten Commandments given to Moses. Later additional Laws were given to keep the Israelites healthy physically, morally, spiritually. But more importantly, they meant to provide a framework for Messiah, the Savior.
Regarding your question an animal sacrifice, The Law required care and compassion not only for fellow man, but for domestic animals. Sacrifice was for a purpose, just as slaughtering an animal for food is for a purpose, and one performed with thanksgiving and appreciation for life.
Then there came the New Covenant … this covenant replaced the Law Covenant which had become burdensome and no longer needed. The New Covenant essentially replaced the Law with simple principles 1) Love God with your whole heart, mind, and soul… 2) Love your fellowman as yourself. Jesus, God’s son, stated that these two commands replace the entire Law Covenant.
Jesus, God’s son, is called the “Lamb of God” in other words, the best that God could give…. God’s method of demonstrating His love for Mankind. God gave His best, the firstborn of all creation. When Jesus gave his life, that represented a perfect sacrifice of faithfulness offsetting what Adam lost. This is what the sacrifices all represented and pointed to, Jesus ultimate sacrifice and his shed blood.
Once this was accomplished, there was no longer a need for animal sacrifice. The debt was fully paid.
Think of it this way…. Adam sold his children out into slavery. Jesus bought us back and freed us. The time of sacrifices was our acknowledgment of sin, our debt and slavery… but there was no way we could atone for ourselves, we’re figuratively just paying the interest. God paid that debt in full with the cooperation of His son.
One of the great lessons from the Bible— we learn how to be real human beings made in God’s image… if we just walk in and follow His son’s footsteps closely.
But the story isn’t done … really, the ultimate questions, how will you and I use our Free Will? Selfishly? Or are we willing to sacrifice for others as our adoptive Father Jesus demonstrated? Then there is the issue of Sovereignty… does God have the right to set standards? Or do we choose to be our own Gods? That was really the choice that Adam made. However, one leads to death, and the other leads to everlasting life.
You were fine until you started talking about the New Covenant. That's a lie from Christianity. Jesus was NOT the "son of God".
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
There was no human sacrifice for sins. There can never be.
Deuteronomy 24:16
16Parents shall not be put to death for children, nor children be put to death for parents: a person shall be put to death only for his own crime
No one can be punished for any sins but their OWN.
The whole sacrifice of animals has nothing to do with the blood. It was to cast off the "animal" traits in the people making the sacrifices, so they will become more like God, much HIGHER than the animals.
And yes, those sacrificial animals were eaten. They were ceremoniously sacrificed according to strict rituals set by he God, and they could only be done by a priest, a descendant of Aaron, the High Priest. After the sacrifices were done, then yes, the families were able to consume the meat. That was especially done on the major festivals, such as Passover, Shavuot/Pentecost, and Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles. It's all in the Bible, and if you read carefully, you will see that God says that those statutes were given FOREVER. Read it; especially Leviticus. It's all there.
There has been no "new covenant" yet. That is yet to come.
Rabbi Mosheh ben Nachman summarized this in a major debate in July of 1263. “Does not the prophet say regarding the Messiah ‘that he shall reign from sea to sea and from the river to the ends of the earth’
(Psalms 72:8 8 May he have dominion from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth!)
– and has not your empire (the Roman Empire) declined since it accepted Christianity” Do not your enemies, the Moslems, rule over a greater empire than yours? And does not the prophet also say that at the time of Messiah ‘they shall not teach their friends war, etc.’
(Jeremiah 31:33-34 - 33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”)
and is it not written
(Isaiah 11:9-10 - 9 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea. 10 In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples—of him shall the nations inquire, and his resting place shall be glorious.)
From the days of Jesus till now, the entire world is full of robbery and pillaging, and the Christians have spilled more blood than any of the other nations, and they are also sexually immoral.”
The Prophets in the Bible foretold (Isaiah 45 and Zephaniah 3) that when the Messiah comes, all the nations of the world will unite to acknowledge and worship the one true God. (Isaiah 11:9). Nothing of this nature took place following the death of Jesus. On the contrary, Islam developed and became the religion of the Arabs and many other nations, Christianity broke up into many conflicting sects which were constantly at war with each other, and a large part of the world continued to worship idols Even today the world is far from the worship of one God.
Jesus was a JEW. Christianity never even became an official religion until 325 CE when it was made official at the Council of Nicaea. Jesus knew NOTHING about that. He was already dead for almost 300 years by then. It was all started by Paul of Tarsus, and many after him continued it on, with the encouragement of the Emperors, who wanted to use that religion to control the people. They tried to take out all Jews, because the knew the Jews knew the truth, and couldn’t be converted that easily.
No, Jesus was NOT “GOD in the Flesh”. That is so insulting to our Creator. If you actually knew anything about our creator, you would know that what you’re saying is virtually impossible. Our CREATOR is EVERYTHING. He MADE EVERYTHING. You are IN GOD. You can’t be IN another human being. It’s impossible for the total infinite Creator to be reduced to a human being.
Radiant. Well done. Adam had a choice. He saw according to God’s command that both he and his wife together exercise dominion over the earth and multiply and be fruitful, they alone he could not reign. Neither could Eve. Adam’s choice was redemptive in the ultimate outcome. Eve was part of Adam. She completed him. With a view to ruling and reigning together. When that was no longer possible due to Satans interference Adam’s choice to eat was ultimately redemptive. That’s the type. Today in the antitype for Christ to rule from His throne in the heavens over the earth He must have a wife. That ingredients for the bride were removed from His body at the crucifixtion. The blood and the water. The Bride will make herself ready. She will be qualified at the Judgment Seat. Only overcomers will rule with Christ as his bride. Adam’s act in type was ultimately redemptive as revealed in the antitype.
Because the sacrifice required “blood atonement.” Only God wouldn’t accept any human sacrifice until his Son. What Cain & Able did were offerings. What Abraham did was sacrifice, because he was a priest as Malchezidek declared. The for-sage to David, then Christ. “Priest, Prophet & King!
That's is just more nonsense. Those animal sacrifices had NOTHING to do with "blood atonement". That entire idea was just a pagan created Christian idea, which did NOT come from God.
God does not CHANGE. He would never sacrifice his own "son" if he was to disgusted with human sacrifices in general. Just think about that for a minute.
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
You clearly don't understand the truth at all. All you understand is what Christianity has told you, which is all LIES.
The lies run deep and when someone only knows what they've accepted at birth or been taught their entire lives, it's hard to break out of the chains but I did. All praises to The Most High!
The only brainwashed one here is YOU. But you just keep on believing that garbage. I really don’t care. You’ll have to answer for your own decisions, not me.
The First-Born Son was ALWAYS Jesus Christ; as the Word creating all. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit existed since before time and creation of the Universe and even the angels. Jesus was ALWAYS the First-Born Son since God SPOKE Him into creation at the beginning of all creation.
That’s what the writers of the New Testament want you to believe. You won’t find that anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. Again, GOD said who His “firstborn son” is.
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
The Old Testament is full of blood sacrifice because the Old Testament is J00ish not Christian, and the J00z have always tortured and killed things for their "god". All of that was exposed when Christ arrived and called them out for worshiping the devil.
Thanks Margaret. Back at you. But you promised me you would ask God who Israel is and why He created Israel as a firstborn son back in Exodus. Do your homework Margaret and then you can enter these posts with integrity and knowledge worth reading.
I promised you nothing. I KNOW who Israel is. Do YOU???
Yes, God created Israel as a "firstborn son" in Exodus, and their purpose was to model for the world what a godly way of life was like. They were to teach the Torah to the world, and show them how to live it.
The problem is that never kept their own promise that they made at Sinai, which is why God kept them in the desert for 40 YEARS, instead of 40 DAYS.
He also made sure that the generations that were taken out Egypt never made it to the Holy Land. Only their offspring were allowed to enter the Holy Land.
I've actually done my homework over many decades. Your assuming that I haven't is really where the problems stand. You know nothing about me.
BKG. God has always been satisfied with death and shed blood as an atonement for sin. Both Testaments. In Exodus God set the pattern which remains today. A lamb for a house. A perfect lamb from a families flock back in Exodus and the perfect Lamb of God sacrificed once for all to atone for any man’s sinful nature today. Whosoever will may come. A salvation free for the asking. No works allowed.
In simple terms the old would be of Adam and before Yahuah. I am not a scholar, but I also struggled with the old and new as well and after much study and inner work, I came to know that the old is still important, it is an evolution of us moving through the phases of our privative existence and the harshness needed to purify our souls. What helped me is Peter 3:8 where one day with our Lord is like a 1000 years. So to me the souls journey, aka, our past incarnations on earth, through the journey of our ancestors coded on our DNA, is where we are today. We are at the end days and the most Relevant of the books is Revelations, it talks of pharmacopeia deceiving all the nations etc. and gives us direction on how to battle the evil on the physical plane. It's important to reflect on the older books as this is where we came from and have evolved today. All of the books are 100% relevant as are all of the stories and the stories KJV removed. For example in the beginning Genesis we, men and women, were given dominion by our creator. Genesis is the first trust. Yes this book old and new is a law book. Our trust was stolen by the King and if you look back you'll see the cyclical nature of the corruption of the King. Yet we never learn and collectively ask again and again for a King or some form of Ruler.... The crimes against the children of God, us, are numerous. The plague followed by the fires and the Act of 1666 where the King took all of the land of London. This is real. They blame a single baker for leaving ovens on.... really. Just like lightning and floods are engulfing the lands they are stealing today. This practice of taking what God gave us and enslaving us through commercial means, taxation and commerce, law of water, is where we are today. We are called to get out of her... Get out of Babylon and the corruption that she represents. The turning of the tables, the walking on water. Remember the book was complied by the King and edited many times and critical books were removed. The book so is so much more than what we have been taught through "religion" I personally believe that the word "religion" was created to separate and divide us. We are and were always people of faith and this is what united us. The book is the foundation of Law. Trust law is the highest of all laws followed by Land then water. The King's Coronation oath was for the King to honour and be in service and servitude to our Lord. This is where things are going sideways and as we men and women are waking up and calling to our Lord sharing of all of the misfeasance of the King and his buddies those who are ruling within this Realm. Because you can't see it, try not to underestimate the spiritual battle at hand. Bless you on your journey. I hope this has helped.
They didn't sacrifice to the same Creator that Yeshua did. That's what he was saying to them, they sacrifice to a false god, not the One Creator.
Moses was a prophet who channeled from Yahweh...and ultimately it seems that was usurped by negative beings and used to justify and instigate the murder and pillaging of the people who lived along their desert path. Because they sacrificed innocents, they "fell" losing their connection and tuning into another one. I don't believe the 10 commandments were given by a loving Creator who understood humans, but by negative being(a), as was sin and everything else that goes back to Babylon and Sumeria.
Yeshua (the name Jesus is a form of Zeus) did not need to channel because he ascended, he channeled himself I guess.
They try to discard the OT because it proves they are lying to you. All they have done is take certain verses out of the NT, then they take them out of context, and embellish them to make them fit with their pagan triune god narrative. But if you actually read ALL of the OT, and you read it carefully, you will see how they are wrong.
The only reason God instructed them to sacrifice animals is because God created humans ABOVE animals, and humans are supposed to conduct themselves like God (in HIS image), not like the animals, who only function on instincts of survival.
When people were sacrificing the animals, they were casting off their "animal" traits, and trying to focus more on their "human" traits, to become more like GOD. That's all that was. God knew what the people were doing, and He knew they needed a physical way to deal with that. Hence the animal sacrifices.
1. If it is not in the Old Testament it has no right being in the New.
2. God has ALWAYS been satisfied with death and shed blood to atone for sin. And that began in Genesis when God replaced Adam and Eve’s plant material (fig leaves) with leather.
The Jews understand that because they know the REAL Bible. It's been passed down to them from generation to generation since the Torah was first given at Sinai.
It's the lack of knowledge that makes people believe in Christianity. They know nothing of what the Jews know.
Yes, many Jews today have lost their way. They haven't kept up on their history, but for those who have, they know the truth. And when you know the truth, what Christianity teaches just sounds ridiculous.
Cosmic. Well there you go tipping your hand. Not bad right up until “there is no original sin”. If not for sin at the origins there would be no sin today. But every man on this green orb is born separated from God. Separated from himself and from others. There is no life apart from the breath, the Neshamah of God breathing life into man at man’s creation. Sin entered through disobedience and remains so today. Obeying God in repentance for one’s rebellion against His designed order is the begining of life for that am.
Yes, it's the religion of Paul of Tarsus, but all of Christianity believes that Jesus was their messiah, and that he was sacrificed for their sins. That is so ridiculous, because if you actually know the Hebrew Bible, you will know that no man can be punished for the sins of another.
Deuteronomy 24:16
16Parents shall not be put to death for children, nor children be put to death for parents: a person shall be put to death only for his own crime
A human sacrifice is abhorrent to God. He was angry about the child sacrifices, so why would he "sacrifice" his own "son"???? The people who believe this nonsense are clearly not thinking things through.
God also said not to eat the blood of any animal, because it was the "life" of the animal. Why would he instruct you to "eat" the blood in remembrance of his "son"???
None of it makes any sense. People just need to clear their heads and look further. They've been fed a pack of lies. I do understand, because I was fed lies as a child too, but I also remember asking questions starting at the age of 5, because NONE of Christianity made any sense to me.
Read the Hebrew Bible, without the filter of the NT, and you'll see what I mean.
Jesus is God in the Flesh. It doesn't sound like you have the Tongue of Fire or Helper who opens your eyes to see! He is the last sin offering to end this practice. We now live under his grace because of his death and resurrection
That's what Christianity wants you to believe. But it's simply not true. Like I said, actually read the Hebrew Bible, without the filter of Christianity. Read what it ACTUALLY says.
You are preaching! When I saw this Scripture clearly, it changed everything for me--this one and after reading 2 Samuel 7. It was clear who the true Messiah is and how the world has been deceived. Thank you.
Jesus was born into man, he was NOT man. Hence why he never sinned and remained pure. The blood you speak of is metaphorical but I'm not sure this was ever truly a practice Jesus had done with his apostles. God is real and his son had very real power that changed this world's power distribution further away from demonic influence until Crowley pretty much F-d that up
He wasn’t punished, He came to die to atone for sin. To make a Way back to the Father. Who Loved us first. What other god does that? My God, My Savior. A genuine inquiry to Him if He did this, if He’s who He says He is, and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord & believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, & woth the mouth one confesses and is saved. Romans 10:9-10 God bless you.
Yep. We do have the right to express our opinions, and we also have the right to disagree. I could refute all that you say, but it would take too long. It took me decades of research to reject Christianity. Too many sources to quote here. However, unless someone really wants to learn the truth, and wants to do the work to prove it, they won't believe it anyway. There's a reason why Jews who know their history reject Christianity.
Early Christians were brainwashed. That was a time of very low literacy. If people were not taught the Hebrew Bible by the Jews, or did not read themselves, they were told all sorts of weird stuff. Paul of Tarsus started a lot of the deception, and over centuries, it was built upon, and then embellished.
If you actually know the Hebrew Bible/OT, then when you read through the NT, you will immediately recognize where a lot of things came from in the OT, and will see how the original verses from the Hebrew Bible were totally taken out of context, and then embellished to make an effort to promote their own narrative. That's how it was done.
Most Christians don't read their Bibles at all, and those that do never read the OT. They hear certain verses being taken out of the OT in readings during services, but they never follow along in their own Bibles, so they don't see how key verses were intentionally left out of those readings, in order to sway the thinking of the congregants. If you actually know the verses they intentionally leave out, it's pretty obvious. Most Christian ministers/pastors, etc., actually know their congregants don't read their own Bibles, so they know they can do this all the time, and the people will be none the wiser.
No, it wasn't. The word 'Christian' was given to those who followed Yahusha (His name is not Jesus) and those who followed Him were called Believers of The Way. Real truth and history has been buried and we have to search for it in His Word, not getting what fallen, corruption men call 'truth'...
That's absolutely correct, Cosmic. In my opinion, of all the lies we've been told over the eons in this realm, Original Sin is the biggest one of all (with Theory of Evolution, the founding of the United States, the US Civil War, how who actually won WW2, how and why 9/11 happeed and who really did it, and of course, the the onset of Coronavirus and the subsequent Plandemic, among countless other deceptions. The Truth there is that we did not "fall," rather Prime Creator fragmented itself out of perfect, unending Love and Unity beyond time and form, in orderr to experience and learn from fear and seperation. We DID however forget who and what we really are - but that isn't entirely our fault either, as we were litterally made to forget by the Dark/Service-to-Self ET's, and their human minions (the elite Satanists with whom we continue to fight today), both through genetic alterations, tags and seals on our Light Bodies, and the propaganda of the Abrahamic religions and modern science, education, and entertainment. Fortunately, we are in the time of Awakening, where folks like you and me and the poeple watching videos like this and countless others are waking up to the Truth of many many things about ourselves and our collective story. Anyways, stay strong and stay in the Light, Brother! The Dark IS losing, and we got this!😀 💪
Yeah? And 700 years of wars by division. We didn't pick the fight, but you bastards who tolerate and thereby promote and propagate it are just as blood guilty. Always looking to live forever.
You clearly don't know the history of Christianity. The RCC IS Christianity. That's where it started. The word "catholic" means "universal". The Roman "catholic" church was once known as the Roman "universal" church. It was cemented into a religion at the council of Nicaea in 325 CE. Since then, there have been many offshoots, it's still all Christianity. Jesus is still their savior. The one they call their Messiah. That has not changed. That is what Christianity is based on, and it's all lies. Judaism rejects this because they know it's all lies.
Well bless your heart Margaret. I will not engage in a pissing contest with any Catholic. What may interest you however is that when one knows both Who and What Israel is from the entire scope and viewpoint of Scripture then it is easy to weed out the man made traditions and mountains of occult lies and scams from over the last 2000 years since Calvary. Additionally I would bet that you do not know where Jesus is at this minute, what He is doing and under what authority His is doing it.
Begin there without your RCC tradition and without Christ still hanging on a cross, and you may BEGIN to get a glimpse of truth.
PS. Not fair to ask a priest of that damnable and cursed religion. Research this yourself. .
I'm not Catholic and I'm not Christian. Read my other posts in this long thread.
Jesus is in his grave. He was no messiah. He was just a rebel in his time, and ended up getting crucified because that's what the Romans did to people like him, so raised so much unrest.
Again, read my other comments in this thread. You'll see that we actually agree. I believe in Judaism. I know where it came from. I also know where Christianity came from, and yes, it's all occultish nonsense.
Well that you are not Catholic is a breath of fresh air for me. And still hope for you. I’d rather go to guns with atheists. They are all the same and easy peasy for Christians to win. They are all self-worshippers and are fond of declaring “I am my own god”. In your case I am not surprised at your attraction to Judaism. That seems to be a default position on the way to Christ the Messiah and deliverer of Israel. The world is indeed full of many voices. Most unreliable if not deadly. Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God. If you have never asked Him to prove Himself to you, to your satisfaction and accordion your criteria, then ask Him. The Holy Spirit loves to answer those kind of questions. And the HS is always a gentleman.
Along the way ask Him Who Israel is, why He created Israel and for what specific purpose. It’s astounding. And life altering.
Thats disgustingly false, you ever look into the first middle english bible? Maybe why it was such a crazy feat?? Oh no because you believe the english 'church' was of God??????? Try again lady, its pissing me off you want to say that when those same slanderers killed innocents just for trying to learn to read their corrupted writings rather than William Tyndale's true bible he was banished from britian for trying to write for the serfs. Maybe learn some history before you start trashing sticks with a giant mf log in your head. This type of manipulation is why the OT is NOT the Hebrew bible, it is a rendition that i hope is close enough in my 1611 bible
What the hell are you talking about. Yes, Catholicism IS Christianity. And it has NOTHING to do with Britain? Why are you going on about Britain?
And FYI, I'm NOT a Christian. I do, however, know where Christianity started, and how many splinters broke out from it. First was Luther, then many others started. Then along came evangelicalism, then along came all the so-call "non-denominational" mega churches.
The Hebrew is the ONLY Bible that I believe in. It was written in Hebrew, and was translated by people who actually knew Hebrew.
The entire NT is nothing but fabricated nonsense. The authors took verses out of the Hebrew Bible, then took them out of context, and then embellished them to create a totally different narrative. It's not hard to figure out. If you actually know the Hebrew Bible, then if you read the NT, then you will recognize which verses came out of the Hebrew Bible, and you will instantly see how the authors of the NT totally bastardized those verses. That's my point.
I only know that once I lived a life that excluded Jesus Christ. Then one day I spoke some simple words reaching out to Him and my life changed. That's been nearly 50 years ago. Between the two; living without Jesus and living with Him there is no comparison. How one does convince another that Jesus Christ is real? I'm not sure it can be done except by an individual personal experience. I can't deny what I've come to know, nor can I forget that Jesus Christ has been my one constant solace through everything.
One can absolutely reason with and encourage another person to repent and turn to Jesus, and it happens every day. That being said, we partner with God's Holy Spirit, as God is the one to quicken their souls. The Bible says that people come to Him through the preaching of God's word. I've lead two of my three children to Christ, and have prayed with others to receive Christ as well. We preach the word, and God is responsible for the rest. Our faith is based on evidence and reason, and our personal experiences with God are also part of our testimony. Thank you for sharing yours.
Yes, I agree with that and have done that many times. I've spoken Scripture as the Holy Spirit led in hopes the hearer will hear, then take the further step to listen, and from there begin their own journey. I prayed before I posted my comment to ask Jesus what should I say that isn't an argument against something but rather something that presents you Jesus. This is the direction I was led. I presented in a condensed version my own life experience, minus the multitude of details that have proven to me that Jesus Christ is real and has always been as I said my one constant solace in so many ways throughout my almost 50 years.
There are some who doubt it, but their doubt does not negate God's existence. The whole creation declares that God does exist. I cant make anyone believe and no one can make me believe that Jesus Christ doesnt exist as He has proven Himself to me far too many times to doubt Him.
John 8:58 "I am" is not a claim to be either God or YHVH. Jesus does not quote Exodus 3:14.
The blind man at John 9:9 says exactly what Jesus said at John 8:58.
Let's look.
John 8:58 ἐγὼ εἰμί~I am.
John 9:9 ἐγώ εἰμι~I am.
Exodus 3:14 first "I am" phrase
Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν~I am who is.
Jesus didn't say this.
Second "I am" phrase in the same verse
Ὁ ὢν~who is. Translated as "I am."
Jesus didn't say this either.
In Greek "I am" is ego eimi.
Jesus did not quote Exodus 3:14. If I am is a claim to be God or YHVH, you need to explain away the claim of the blind man of being God, YHVH, or both.
Jesus DENIED being God.
Luke 18:19
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Jesus just DENIED BEING God!
He basically said ”There is none good but God, and I’m NOT GOD
John 8:42
“Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for *I proceeded forth and came from God;* neither came I of myself, but he sent me.”
Jesus is the messenger of God.
“neither came I of myself” is a denial of being God.
Jesus never claimed to be God; only the SON OF God.
The apostles said Jesus was The SON OF God, as did the demons who encountered Jesus. None of them claimed Jesus was God the Father, The Most High God.
Jesus & Apostles said God was His Father, and our father.
Jesus said His Father was Greater than Himself. A high priest has a God above him, therefore Jesus is Not the Most High. John 14:28, John 10:29.
God raised Jesus from the dead.
God healed the sick & raised the dead through Jesus & the 12 apostles. Romans 10:9, Romans 8:11, Galatians 1:1, Romans 6:4, John 14:10, Ephesians 1:20
Jesus said that by Himself, He could do NOTHING.
John 5:30, John 8:28
Jesus cried out on the cross “MY GOD, MY GOD, Why has thou forsaken me?
Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
*If Jesus is just YHWH in a body, then why would YHWH pray to himself asking himself if there was another way besides crucifixion to atone for the sins of the world, in the Garden? Praying desperately to himself for himself to find another way so he won’t have to sacrifice himself as the lamb of himself.*
(Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:42, Mark 14:36, Luke 22:42)
*That sounds schizophrenic in the EXTREME and bipolar to me. It is CONFUSION!*
According to Scripture, Jesus was perfected on the cross, and LEARNED OBEDIENCE on the cross. Obedience to whom? Is God obedient to anyone?
Luke 13:32, Hebrews 2:10, Hebrews 5:8-9
This spells out who the *ONE God* is: 1 Corinthians 8:6
“But to us *there is but one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we in him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we by him.”
One God = The Father, YHWH Elohim
One Lord = Jesus Christ, Yeshua Elohim
Matthew 26:53
“Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he (YHWH) shall presently give me (Jesus) more than twelve legions of angels?”
If Jesus was God as you claim, why would Jesus need to ask anyone for angels (Matthew 26:53)? YHWH God created the angels (before Jesus was BEGOTTEN in heaven) & commands the angels. Jesus hasn’t created any angels yet that can be found in scripture.
According to scripture, Jesus is NOT OMNISCIENT, NOT OMNIPOTENT. Do you believe God is Omnipotent & omniscient?
Jesus isn’t all-knowing (Omniscient) as He admits in John 5:20. YHWH still has much to teach/show His Firstborn SON, Jesus:
John 5:20
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and *he will shew him greater works than these,* that ye may marvel.
By claiming Jesus is God, you remove our MELCHIZEDEK HIGH PRIEST, our intercessor TO GOD, our intercessor BETWEEN God and man. Jesus sits at the Right Hand of God.
1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God (YHWH) and one mediator between God (YHWH) and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
Hebrews 5:9-10, Hebrews 9:11-15, Romans 8:34, Hebrews 7:24-25, 1 John 2:1-2, John 17:20-21, Hebrews 4:14-15, Hebrews 9:24, Colossians 3:17.
* How can Jesus be High Priest & intercessor to Himself? It’s confusing nonsense.
John 14:6
“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
This verse is nonsense if Jesus is the Father. It makes perfect sense if Jesus is The Firstborn Son of God, as He claimed. Primogeniture plays a part here, and most Christians today are ignorant of Biblical Primogeniture (Law of The Firstborn).
What do you think about the many revisions to the KJV? about the letter "J" only being 500 years old replacing the letters "dg" and of the Celtic deity Esus? Exodus 23:13
Well said, I listened to a reformed satanist years ago who participated in sacrifices for years. He claimed the when you go into a church to pray, any church your prayers are going to satan. It's all a ruse.
Agree. Organized Religion is simply a cover for organized crime. With that said, well intending men and women are oblivious and benefit. This is the root of the ongoing Genocide where the State parties known as the Crown Corporations, Canada, Australia and US attempted to irradicate the indigenous peoples. Kevin Annett exposed much of this and has held International Trials...all hush hush. He continues to expose it. He wrote books and exposed so much look at UNREPENTANT is a good documentary. He is a protected man of God.
Greg, you do great work, but you haven't done your homework on this one. Catholic tradition and the King James Bible are two entirely different things. It's fair enough if you want to document the syncretism of Catholicism, but don't impute that syncretism to the Bible in any way. I'm a student of the biblical text and what you are saying here about the Bible is also utterly without merit. I can't respond to every argument you make, but let us consider the cross. It doesn't matter what it represents as an ancient solar symbol. Lots of things are shaped like a cross. The relevant aspect is that it was a mechanism of torture used by the Romans, and that it was used by the Romans to crucify the Son of God. THAT defines its meaning for genuine Christians, regardless of the manner in which crosses are used anywhere else. If you are trying to defeat the reality of salvation in Jesus Christ, may God grant you the grace to see that you are on a dangerous path. You have said before that your spiritual perspective is based on a lived reality. But both sides have an experiential reality to them. That is not what is determinative of truth. When we stand before God to account for our sins, there are those whose sins will, in Christ, have been forgiven, and there are those whose sins will not. It all comes down to the question - how do we get rid of the sin from which we are unable to extricate ourselves. If we hold ourselves to the standard of absolute moral righteousness, what on earth do we do with our guilt? God bless.
The argument is this: "Greg, you do great work, but ...... not when you address my brand of mind virus religion." Blah, blah, blah ....... circular logic and coping machanisms for utter failures and full on retreat on all fronts, add in some likes and a few other commentators of this variety "Yeahhhh"......
Christmas trees, Easter eggs, rabbits and Santa Claus… no one venerated “the cross” in the Bible either.
As you aptly attest, “The relevant aspect is that it was a mechanism of torture used by the Romans, and that it was used by the Romans to crucify the Son of God.”
If one thinks deeply, if Jesus was killed today by a gun, would they worship that too?
You’ve proven out your own argument of “syncretism”; pagan symbols of worship have indeed been overlaid on the Bible, obscuring the truth. When the “implement of Jesus murder” is venerated, when clearly the Bible doesn’t teach that, but cross worship does have pagan origins and meaning, doesn’t that bother you?
Excellent post - your second sentence - "Catholic tradition and the King James Bible are two entirely different things." You said it perfectly. Our beloved KJB is The Bible, not a "version". Thanks for your post!
No it’s not. The KJV was written in 1605. The Catholic Bible with all 72 books canonized at the Councils of Hippo & Carthage in 394 & 397 AD respectively. You sound like a 5th grader.
You nned to do your own homework... Think about it... The world did not start 2025 years ago... unless, you want to keep being Gregg's opposition. Show us your money and I'll show you who you serve.
Everything we have been taught is a lie! The story of Christ has been told over and over for thousands of years. It’s a tool to control the masses and support the churches greed. When the truth is truly released many will loose their minds.
I'm not sure how you can broad brush millions of people and say that they know hardly anything about Him. I know quite a few people who follow His words closely and mirror Him in almost every aspect of their lives. Sure there are many hypocrites and dead churches out there, but in my experience, I have met people who faithfully love and serve God by loving and serving "the least of these."
Firstly, most Christians follow in the religious footsteps of their parents and have never even read the Bible. Secondly, even if they did, there is is very little information in it about the life of Jesus, what he taught and thought and how he lived his life.
Great comment. Most, indeed, have not read the book they profess to follow. I had a little tiff just this morning when I stated I do not believe the book is the word of god and cited several examples. The person referenced The Chosen show in her response argument, not even the Bible. A show from television. Giant eye-roll. Even I have read the Bible and I am not a Christian. It was extremely violent….just sayin’.
We're all controlled by something. I'm thankful to be controlled by the one who gave His all for my sake because of love. Please Jesus control me more until I'm no longer resistant.
My comment was aimed at sharing thoughts of the religious deceptions man easily follows. And I have prayed extensively on this subject. Christianity teaches us righteousness behavior, that is a feel good behavioral trait to maintain (good karma) that is good. BUT it also teaches Jesus died for our sins because we are unworthy pieces of sh-t God created man and all that is as Christianity teaches. So if god is perfect why would he judge those unworthy to a lake of fire unless they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Sure feels like the evil one has Christians praying to a false god hidden in their righteous feel good behavior. Why don’t you ask Jesus if he is a god or teacher. Recognize yer fear to even question if Jesus is yer lord and savior. God does not work in fear but evil does in my beliefs. If Christianity was an onion and you peeled off the layers of righteousness you come down to the center that’s fear based (eternal damnation in a lake of fire unless you believe) how stupid why would a loving god create such pain. I believe god is within all that is and we are one in spirit, quiet your mind and listen. Christianity does not teach meditation (how to connect with yer inner self) it deceives one from connecting to our inner self that is connected to all that is (God) That is my thoughts.
💯 truth right there! We're taught from birth to constantly look outside of ourselves and not to rely on ourselves, this is the reason humanity is so easily manipulated and controlled! I question the hell out of everything! I don't think that a loving God is in control of this world because if he was in control would life be so hard and feel like a living hell? Would babies and children be sex trafficked, sodomized and have the blood drained from their bodies along with their flesh to get consumed by monster vampires that only appear human and look like human beings? I don't see or understand how a loving God would allow and tolerate such atrocities being done to his creation! I see humanity living in a realm of hell all because Eve made mistake in the garden while this so-called "loving God" sits back on his throne watching his creation(us humans)suffer such painful and hard lives struggling just to survive while at the same time we are asking "why" and "please help us" and we only get traumatized with more suffering and hardship from all of the hate in this world! None of it makes any sense to me! I don't know what's truly in control, but it can't be a loving God that truly loves his creation!
I appreciate this conversation that we are sharing. Why? Because I see by your words that you are seeking and questioning; each one of us should do that. Even after reaching what one believes is truth, there remain questions; to me that is what produces growth. I have asked Jesus and the answer for me is that He is both God and teacher, and much more. Christianity does teach us to meditate, albeit, not in the new age sense or however one defines it.. David the king of Israel speaks about this in some of the Psalms. I do it myself, except I call it communing, which is what I do when having a conversation with Jesus Christ that is often question filled about a variety of issues. Sometimes I just sit quietly in contemplation. As for the subject of the lake of fire, and the why, I could offer some responses, but I think it best for you to search it out because my response might not adequately give you the answer you're seeking. Again, it's good to have a reasonable conversation with a fellow human being who seeks.
What proof do you have of Jesus being crucified. Truth is you don’t. If god created man and all that is. Well then obviously god f-cked up Why would a loving god put his creation into an environment that man would fail at so miserably and then be judged for his failures and thrown into an eternal pit of fire unless he worships his son Evil one is the ultimate deceiver. Fear is the basis of Christianity hidden in the righteousness of the religion. All religions are man’s religions. To believe there is an actual religious godly scriptures that have not been manipulated is foolishness
I'll answer your question with this question. What proof do you have that Jesus Christ wasnt crucified? Why don't you try asking Him instead of me. My simple statement was this, that we're all controlled by something to some degree. If, Jesus Christ doesn't exist why do you care if I believe He does and choose to be controlled by Him rather than something or someone else?
I'm with George Carlin, I worship the sun as it comes up everyday( when not obscured by chemtrails) and asks for nothing. but I pray to Joe Pesci as he answers my prayers about 50% of the time.
There are many ways to know the Bible is true. Archaeology, the way the Bible is written, the testimony of many being in agreement, the foreknowledge of God (prophecies being written hundreds of years before the events actually happened, the miracles of Jesus, the enigma of the Jews, science and the like. Read Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell, or Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. Ask God to make Himself known to you and to open your eyes.
Great question. And your statement about everything being a lie is an honest observation. Too many people have quick one line platitudes without understanding history and context.
Cognitive dissonance is painful for some to overcome when bringing true observation into connection with long held cherished beliefs handed down through family and tradition.
Religion has always been a tool used by enemies of truth, to control and blind people. (The Bible in fact teaches this)
That doesn’t mean, however, that there isn’t Truth. But to find it, we need to get busy and dig for it like we would a hidden treasure.
Blind belief is dangerous and foolish. In fact, most things people think they know or believe about the Bible, aren’t actually in the Bible… most people I’ve met haven’t read it through, or even own one.
My advice, in all sincerity to the question… avoid people that provide unhelpful one line and meaningless platitudes they can’t explain or demonstrate.
But prove the Bible True (or false) for yourself, by first making a start to read it thoroughly all the way through. Start with the Gospels— Mathew, Mark, Luke, John. Next read Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Soloman. Then read Genesis on, and re-read from start to finish. This is just a suggestion.
Find and use a Bible to read that is in your language. For us English speakers, that isn’t the King James… 13th century English is difficult to grasp, and is not our language today. Use a Bible that’s in modern English. I appreciate the history of The King James and I use for reference, but no one talks that way today. I use and compare multiple English translations, but you can find the Bible in almost every language of the earth today. Find an easy to read translation that you can enjoy reading (but not paraphrased, you do want an accurate rendering from the original languages)
(Just to preempt negative comments, the KJ translation is not the original Bible, it’s a translation commissioned in the 13th century by King James. The original languages were Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
Some proofs to me that the Bible is true:
— Flood event. Known in every civilization in their oral history. Supported by archaeology and probably why carbon dating is way off. Explains why they find ocean fossils in all sorts of odd places.
— Prophecy fulfilled…
— Scientifically accurate
— Historically verbose and detailed with people, places, dates all well supported by secular history and archaeology. (As opposed to myths and stories with minimal anchors to the real world, eg. “Once upon a time in a place far far away” nice story, not provable without historical markers)
— Candor… nothing is covered up, but it’s all transparent and laid bare… it’s told the way it is, the good, the bad, the ugly
Most outstanding to me, though…. Is the moral lessons of life that transcend time and culture.
Exactly! The Bible is the most translated and edited book on this planet! It's just not logical to believe that the Bibles we have today are 100% accurate! Maybe at one time the Bible was accurate! All we have today is copies of kazillon copies of the Bible! I look at and question that library that existed in ancient times in Alexandria, Egypt and what manuscripts and information was available in that library! The Romans confiscated everything and then burnt the library down and vast amounts of vital information disappeared from humanity and the Romans still control that information today and it's all locked away, probably, in the Vatican's library! As Graham Hancock says "humanity is a species with amnesia" and he's 💯 right as we don't know where we came from, why we're here, the true purpose to any of this because the history that we've been taught is lies and humanity is too dumbed down from the poisons in our air, food and water to understand the truth about anything and humanity is constantly being manipulated!
“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.” John 18:37 KJV
Great job Greg. I sure miss Jordan Maxwell, I always enjoyed his talks and info. Boy is religion confusing. Glad I just stick with Jesus, the Father, Mary and the HS. Best to keep it simple and go to the top for answers and guidance.
Me thinks you're trying to " point " that The Bible who is Jesus Christ in printed format is " not " true. That's simply "The Point " that comes out of this reporting. If that's not the case how about you be on the search for reporting of veracity of The Bible and don't involve anything to do with CC, that's a challenge you're probably not interested in. A Roman ruler once asked "What is truth?" ,when The revealed Truth was standing alive in front of him.
Well said. Of course that is what he is doing. He’s just not man enough to admit it. He should stick to conspiracies. When it comes to theology he is in kindergarten.
Greg might be afraid of the challenge, he is a bold individual but that could change everything, the farm into a garden, The Creator into My Saviour, My God, celibacy Into a family.....
But you can’t make a point when you haven’t a clue of what ur talking about. “Better for a wise man to stay silent than to speak out & make fools of themselves.”
I listened to Jordon on Jeff Rense for years. He was an interesting guy. But like many others he was ignoring his own death. A conspiracy researcher venturing into theology is a fish out of water.
I went to Catholic school all the way through the end of high school. I learned a lot about Catholic church and to make it short and simple, Greg Reese is telling the absolute truth. It's why I left Catholic church long ago. Catholic church is not what we have been told in the past.
It’s the “One & Only True Church” founded by Christ himself over 2,000 yrs/ago. Your world/history started in 1517 AD. Protestantism wasn’t even a trickle down Luther’s leg until then.
Who fought the Crusades, who fought the Ottomans (Leponto/Vienna) saving the world from Islamic take over. Catholics. Protestants during the Ottoman invasion refused to help Europe.
They were too busy screwing each others wives & warring against themselves. I find this site attracts very low IQ types & thinking. 5th Grade level knowledge. It’s embarrassing & boring!
Oh Mr. Greg. You really opened the can of worms on this one. Albeit, the perfect example of why religion is one of the most destructive constructs to ever exist. How about maybe every one of you are completely wrong? As a three time survivor of what the misinformed call “near-death-experiences”, I can accurately tell you that many of the people on the comments are completely wrong about it all. The problem here is ALL Bibles were written by humans with a desire to control others. Sure, there are some accurate verses of Jesus’ words but, much of it is just as the creator has said… “They have twisted my words and got me all wrong”. Maybe visit NDERF website or watch some NDE interviews on YouTube instead of fighting over some misconstrued wording that was written centuries ago and twisted many times by every control freak who got the chance. How do you know if the NDEs are real? If the person claims they were sad about their life being over, worried about family members, or lamented when they say their lifeless body, close it and move on to the next one. Those emotions and feelings are non-existent in the afterlife.
The requirements are much simpler than has been written in the Bible. We are supposed to love and help all people as best we can. Forgiveness is very important as well as if we wish to be forgiven, we must forgive. I, myself had many struggles with forgiveness of off the ways I have been wronged. Once I understood ego and how it prevents not only love for others but, true forgiveness, my struggles were over. In any and all situations, I seek enlightenment by introspection and quickly realize I am the problem.
Jesus Christ is NO construct, although I recognize your preference to believe so. Pray you open your soul where only the Holy Spirit fits to be filled with the 'All-Encompassing Fire of God's Love' through the Holy Spirit...Completely under the control of Jesus Christ.
While sounding 'New Age,' you also sound to be still searching and hoping your heart is opened to requesting Jesus to allow his Holy Spirit to fill you...So, your journey with Him begins. With Jesus, first comes the request for faith, the acceptance, before it is given. THAT IS THE LEAP OF FAITH.
The existence of a counterfeit $20 bill does not negate the value of a real $20 bill. The existence of a counterfeit $20 bills also does not by extension mean that all $20 bills must be counterfeit. Lucifer/Satan/the Devil has no power to create, only to counterfeit. All of the counterfeits described here are just that -- the enemy's attempt to confuse those who do not personally know The Real by generating thousands of years of direct counterfeits does NOT negate the reality of the True and Living God, His only True Begotten Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and His own Holy Spirit shed abroad into the inner heart of all those who lay hold of Him by faith. The difference, missed by this attempt to say that there is no difference, between the counterfeit and The Real is the ability of The Real to totally transform the hearts and the lives of those who respond to the pull of the Holy Spirit to give themselves wholly and completely to The Real that is only resident in and manifest through The Lord Jesus Christ. That does not mean intellectual acceptance of Christian "religion" or even "theology" -- which are sometimes also just deceptive counterfeits arising from the great deceiver and counterfeiter. NONE of the elaborate counterfeits can transform -- including, perhaps especially, those veiled in a thin veneer of "Christianity," regardless of how grandiose their buildings, how flamboyant their attire, or how elaborate their liturgies. Quite the opposite. ANY of the counterfeits referred to here, including those with a veneer of "Christianity," always and only lead to places of great darkness, despair, and often degeneracy -- clearly manifest throughout history in every culture that has ever been built around any of the counterfeits.
Nice try to make Christianity a farce and descendant of paganism. The truth of the matter is just the opposite, not to say that the RCC was a true church because it wasn’t. Satan copied true Christianity and has made a substitute which has damned many. Some of us know the truth. A good primer would be Ivan Hyslops “ The Two Babylons”.
Everyone always says "Well nobody knows what's going to happen", but we do!
The Christians are going to destroy the World as we know it.
Well, not just the Christians, but all the llluminati created religions that have a pre-programmed horrific, apocalyptic, hell-on-Earth endtimes programmed into it.
That way, all the Evil have to do is set off a couple 'prophesies' (which they wrote) and suddenly 2billion Christians, 2billion Muslims, and who knows how many Jews, are all going to begin holding a collective vision of a horrific, apocalyptic, hell-on-Earth.
the NATO psyops warrior still think Greg works for INFOWARS ! hahahahhahahaha , the USAID speech enemy list has not being updated.
Greg took a shitlib turn , even attack Alex J, his old boss , for clout. . . . his twitter is retarded . . . but yet i love the guy am like him , a nerdy weirdo hermit who pretend to play music and video games. I forgive him for his Trump TDS .
I forgive and still love him (no homo) . CHRIST IS KING😎
Remember a few weeks ago when Greg said :"There was no more conspiracy" Well thats laziness talking i see new shit every other days. I hop he goes after the Joo and Muslims everyone deserve to be knock a few pegs . . . For science(laughs) and world peace of course. Its good cause.
It will be Christianity like Jehovah Witnesses & now Evangelicals, which I can no longer tell the difference, which will destroy the world. Keep talking or attempt to build a third Temple, which was tried before in 284 AD by the Emperor Julian the Apostate & ended in utter calamity. See how fast the whack job Kenny Dopelands, Paula Whites & windbag Hagees set the world ablaze with nonsensical, non Scriptural eschatology. It’s called Schofield Biblicism made up in the 1830s.
Yeah dude for everyone yapping about how counterfeit everything is they sure never address The Schofield episode i mean ....... its not a matter of opinion we have receipts and "chain of custody" more and more i feel the Greeks were really diligent.
Or "Divorce?" You notice many are divorced & remarried several times over. They conveniently leave that out of their sermons. I see it all over SM. "Meet my 3rd wife & don't forget to buy our Rune stone crystals which will protect you from 5G." What a joke! Hypocrites & Christ mongers.
I appreciate Jordan Maxwell's keen mind. His observations are fascinating. However, when I read the Book of John, I struggle to conceive of Christ merely as some type of symbolic, mythological archetype of the sun. He appears to be a real person who believed himself to be the Son of God (our Creator), and who came with a mission to save us from God's wrath after our fall. Our "leaders," our "elites," obviously possessed of the same spirit of the serpent in Genesis, encourage us to repeat the same original sin today--if we transgress God's will (now framed in trans-humanist terms), we can become as gods, and live forever. I may have been vulnerable to such temptations before 2020, but I just can't anymore. I pray for God's wisdom and discernment every day. For I know I have little.
If you want to learn so much more about the Roman Catholic Church. I was born and raised in a very strict Catholic Church. I converted to the Protestant church at 22. I got books about Babylon and pagan works in the Catholic Church. All church's are controlled by a false religion. It's very sad that it wasn't until I was 30 until I got out of all the pagan churches. I'm 67 now, and this Jesus they teach today is the god Zeus. I zues. The real God man was Yahusha Hamashiah. Paleo Hebrew Aramaic. Constantine successfully created a new religion and 1/3 of those on earth have no idea they worship and live for Saturn/Satan. Why would the creator of all things need you and me to bow down and worship him. What does he get out of it?? Only a lesser god like Lucifer would want this. Open your eyes to see what is plainly in front of you. Israel Fake Jews are the same way. It's so pathetic to create God in man's image, but they all succeeded and have total control over so many. Get your wallet out and pay for your forgiveness. 😂 So pathetic!
I see things based on too many facts. Zionists are around 150 yrs to date. Cyrus Scofield gave America their orders for believing Jews are chosen somehow by twisting Scripture and adding footnotes for pastors today to teach. 1908 Moody Bible Institute printed and spread Zionism. I'm of no religious organization. If anything, I'm agnostic. I see the purest as misled and so many others indoctrinated by man's attempt to create God in their image. I hope you aren't one of those kind.
Just the opposite. You said in your earlier post that Constantine created a "new" religion? Constantine didn't create or institute the Church. It was around nascently for over 200 yrs prior. He was merely an emperor who favored the stability of Christianity over paganism. He was a catechumen while he was emperor, His mother was a Christian. Helena (St. Helena) which his father Constantius was forced to divorce because he was one of the Tetrarchs who ruled Gaul & the Emperor of Rome, Diocletian, was persecuting Christians at the time. It was politically dangerous for them both in the era. Yeah, he favored Christianity, can't blame him. He didn't want to see his mama fed to the lions. Constantine didn't even get Baptized until several months before his death.
Hence, why I asked if you were a JW. That's made-up ignorant history straight from one of their propagandist prayer tract screeds. History is important. Know it, love it, learn from it.
Thank you, I agree with everything you said. I went to Catholic school all the way up until I graduated from high school. What you have said is exactly what I also discovered and why I left Catholic church. I'm so glad this is starting to come out now.
Come on Greg. This is not new. All of it is occultic. Hidden from view from over 6,000 years ago. Now Roman Catholicism is many things as you rightly point out. But Christian is NOT one of them. Absolutely nothing about the RCC is Christian. It is fraud from Peter to the papacy. From IHS to pedophilia. Christ did NOT come to His people to establish any church.
He is the WAY. He is the TRUTH. And He is the LIFE. Many men have made many attempts to grab what the Son of the Living God arrived on this earth the first time to do and make it in their own corrupt image. All have failed. Most of it went to the dustbin of history. Some of it was commandeered by occult satanic forces and we see a grand display of them in the “major religions of the world” list. But never accuse Christ and his followers of participation in that group. That includes every named “denomination” within this list. They are among the guilty of the shedding of the blood of Christ.
More whack job Schofield Evangelicalism & Jehovah Witness nonsense. Educate yourself!
Oh why use such a sharp sword? Be mindful there are many souls at different levels of evolution. Share with them the path. Don't slam the door.
Michelle. “Levels of evolution”?
Yes. We are all here with different levels of understanding. Just suggesting we be kind to each other. My comment was for the one above yours.
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VIO. Schofield. Evangelicalism. JW’s are mutually exclusive. Each goofy in their own way but not co-incident or causal.
Amen! We differentiate that between being “religious” and being a “born again follower of Jesus”. I’m the latter, thank God! 😀. A broken sinner who tries to spread love to all
Christianity is not the religion of Jesus the Son of Man, it is the religion of Paul of Tarsus. The loving Creator Son taught against animal sacrifice. God is a loving father who forgives us of our sins. There is no original sin...it's mankind growing and evolving and making mistakes.
Why did they sacrifice in the Old Testament. I know we are taught to atone for sins and that Jesus was the lamb of God and sacrificing animals with no longer necessary. I’ve always had a hard time with that in the old testament. God created all creatures and to kill animals seems sad.
Sacrifices were not what you might think on the surface. The animal was used in whole and did not go to waste. In fact, one of the sacrifices, called the “communion sacrifice” during the ‘festival of booths’ one would share in the cooked meat with there family, and it was as if you were having a meal or sharing a meal with God.
The so called “Old Testament”, or the Hebrew Scriptures really is a collection of the Torah (first five Books of Moses), the Prophets, and the Writings (Proverbs, Psalms, Job, etc).
This first section details the Creation, the fall of man from perfection to sin, and rebellion in the heavens which affects us on Earth. (I can go into detail if you want)
Various Covenants or agreements are introduced. These are contracts. For example, the Marriage Covenant was introduced and then there is the Edenic Covenant (the first Prophecy concerning a Savior), then the personal Covenants with Noah, Abraham, David… the Rainbow Covenant after the flood (God promised not to ever destroy the Earth with water, the Rainbow is a sign and reminder of His promise)… then there is also the Mosaic Covenant and the Priestly Covenant… the Covenant of Circumcision, and others I’m forgetting. Then there was the Law Covenant. This is really where Judaism sprang from. The “Law” started with the first Ten Commandments given to Moses. Later additional Laws were given to keep the Israelites healthy physically, morally, spiritually. But more importantly, they meant to provide a framework for Messiah, the Savior.
Regarding your question an animal sacrifice, The Law required care and compassion not only for fellow man, but for domestic animals. Sacrifice was for a purpose, just as slaughtering an animal for food is for a purpose, and one performed with thanksgiving and appreciation for life.
Then there came the New Covenant … this covenant replaced the Law Covenant which had become burdensome and no longer needed. The New Covenant essentially replaced the Law with simple principles 1) Love God with your whole heart, mind, and soul… 2) Love your fellowman as yourself. Jesus, God’s son, stated that these two commands replace the entire Law Covenant.
Jesus, God’s son, is called the “Lamb of God” in other words, the best that God could give…. God’s method of demonstrating His love for Mankind. God gave His best, the firstborn of all creation. When Jesus gave his life, that represented a perfect sacrifice of faithfulness offsetting what Adam lost. This is what the sacrifices all represented and pointed to, Jesus ultimate sacrifice and his shed blood.
Once this was accomplished, there was no longer a need for animal sacrifice. The debt was fully paid.
Think of it this way…. Adam sold his children out into slavery. Jesus bought us back and freed us. The time of sacrifices was our acknowledgment of sin, our debt and slavery… but there was no way we could atone for ourselves, we’re figuratively just paying the interest. God paid that debt in full with the cooperation of His son.
One of the great lessons from the Bible— we learn how to be real human beings made in God’s image… if we just walk in and follow His son’s footsteps closely.
But the story isn’t done … really, the ultimate questions, how will you and I use our Free Will? Selfishly? Or are we willing to sacrifice for others as our adoptive Father Jesus demonstrated? Then there is the issue of Sovereignty… does God have the right to set standards? Or do we choose to be our own Gods? That was really the choice that Adam made. However, one leads to death, and the other leads to everlasting life.
Choose wisely and live your life well.
You were fine until you started talking about the New Covenant. That's a lie from Christianity. Jesus was NOT the "son of God".
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
There was no human sacrifice for sins. There can never be.
Deuteronomy 24:16
16Parents shall not be put to death for children, nor children be put to death for parents: a person shall be put to death only for his own crime
No one can be punished for any sins but their OWN.
The whole sacrifice of animals has nothing to do with the blood. It was to cast off the "animal" traits in the people making the sacrifices, so they will become more like God, much HIGHER than the animals.
And yes, those sacrificial animals were eaten. They were ceremoniously sacrificed according to strict rituals set by he God, and they could only be done by a priest, a descendant of Aaron, the High Priest. After the sacrifices were done, then yes, the families were able to consume the meat. That was especially done on the major festivals, such as Passover, Shavuot/Pentecost, and Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles. It's all in the Bible, and if you read carefully, you will see that God says that those statutes were given FOREVER. Read it; especially Leviticus. It's all there.
There has been no "new covenant" yet. That is yet to come.
Rabbi Mosheh ben Nachman summarized this in a major debate in July of 1263. “Does not the prophet say regarding the Messiah ‘that he shall reign from sea to sea and from the river to the ends of the earth’
(Psalms 72:8 8 May he have dominion from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth!)
– and has not your empire (the Roman Empire) declined since it accepted Christianity” Do not your enemies, the Moslems, rule over a greater empire than yours? And does not the prophet also say that at the time of Messiah ‘they shall not teach their friends war, etc.’
(Jeremiah 31:33-34 - 33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”)
and is it not written
(Isaiah 11:9-10 - 9 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea. 10 In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples—of him shall the nations inquire, and his resting place shall be glorious.)
From the days of Jesus till now, the entire world is full of robbery and pillaging, and the Christians have spilled more blood than any of the other nations, and they are also sexually immoral.”
The Prophets in the Bible foretold (Isaiah 45 and Zephaniah 3) that when the Messiah comes, all the nations of the world will unite to acknowledge and worship the one true God. (Isaiah 11:9). Nothing of this nature took place following the death of Jesus. On the contrary, Islam developed and became the religion of the Arabs and many other nations, Christianity broke up into many conflicting sects which were constantly at war with each other, and a large part of the world continued to worship idols Even today the world is far from the worship of one God.
Jesus is EXACTLY who he said he was, GOD in the Flesh. That's why the joos killed him.
Jesus was a JEW. Christianity never even became an official religion until 325 CE when it was made official at the Council of Nicaea. Jesus knew NOTHING about that. He was already dead for almost 300 years by then. It was all started by Paul of Tarsus, and many after him continued it on, with the encouragement of the Emperors, who wanted to use that religion to control the people. They tried to take out all Jews, because the knew the Jews knew the truth, and couldn’t be converted that easily.
No, Jesus was NOT “GOD in the Flesh”. That is so insulting to our Creator. If you actually knew anything about our creator, you would know that what you’re saying is virtually impossible. Our CREATOR is EVERYTHING. He MADE EVERYTHING. You are IN GOD. You can’t be IN another human being. It’s impossible for the total infinite Creator to be reduced to a human being.
All you’ve proven is that you know NOTHING.
So many Scriptures, including Isaiah 11:10, make it clear that the Messiah is the root of Jesse, meaning David and not anyone else
Radiant. Well done. Adam had a choice. He saw according to God’s command that both he and his wife together exercise dominion over the earth and multiply and be fruitful, they alone he could not reign. Neither could Eve. Adam’s choice was redemptive in the ultimate outcome. Eve was part of Adam. She completed him. With a view to ruling and reigning together. When that was no longer possible due to Satans interference Adam’s choice to eat was ultimately redemptive. That’s the type. Today in the antitype for Christ to rule from His throne in the heavens over the earth He must have a wife. That ingredients for the bride were removed from His body at the crucifixtion. The blood and the water. The Bride will make herself ready. She will be qualified at the Judgment Seat. Only overcomers will rule with Christ as his bride. Adam’s act in type was ultimately redemptive as revealed in the antitype.
Because the sacrifice required “blood atonement.” Only God wouldn’t accept any human sacrifice until his Son. What Cain & Able did were offerings. What Abraham did was sacrifice, because he was a priest as Malchezidek declared. The for-sage to David, then Christ. “Priest, Prophet & King!
That's is just more nonsense. Those animal sacrifices had NOTHING to do with "blood atonement". That entire idea was just a pagan created Christian idea, which did NOT come from God.
God does not CHANGE. He would never sacrifice his own "son" if he was to disgusted with human sacrifices in general. Just think about that for a minute.
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
You clearly don't understand the truth at all. All you understand is what Christianity has told you, which is all LIES.
The lies run deep and when someone only knows what they've accepted at birth or been taught their entire lives, it's hard to break out of the chains but I did. All praises to The Most High!
Wrong and brian washed.
The only brainwashed one here is YOU. But you just keep on believing that garbage. I really don’t care. You’ll have to answer for your own decisions, not me.
So, what was Abraham sacrificing? Was he just doing an air dance. You people are seriously uneducated & low IQ.
The First-Born Son was ALWAYS Jesus Christ; as the Word creating all. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit existed since before time and creation of the Universe and even the angels. Jesus was ALWAYS the First-Born Son since God SPOKE Him into creation at the beginning of all creation.
That’s what the writers of the New Testament want you to believe. You won’t find that anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. Again, GOD said who His “firstborn son” is.
Exodus 4:22-23
22Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord: Israel is My first-born son. 23I have said to you, “Let My son go, that he may worship Me,” yet you refuse to let him go. Now I will slay your first-born son.’ ”
(Israel is God’s first-born son. Jesus is NOT God’s first-born son. It says here, “Let my son go, that he may worship me.” How can God worship Himself??? That statement alone totally debunks Christianity.)
STOP! You’re embarrassing yourself now. Get learning. 5th grade is over.
I guess you don't know how to read. Bye Bye!
The Old Testament is full of blood sacrifice because the Old Testament is J00ish not Christian, and the J00z have always tortured and killed things for their "god". All of that was exposed when Christ arrived and called them out for worshiping the devil.
Man. You can sure torture Scripture.
You clearly know nothing about the Bible. Why even comment here.
Thanks Margaret. Back at you. But you promised me you would ask God who Israel is and why He created Israel as a firstborn son back in Exodus. Do your homework Margaret and then you can enter these posts with integrity and knowledge worth reading.
I promised you nothing. I KNOW who Israel is. Do YOU???
Yes, God created Israel as a "firstborn son" in Exodus, and their purpose was to model for the world what a godly way of life was like. They were to teach the Torah to the world, and show them how to live it.
The problem is that never kept their own promise that they made at Sinai, which is why God kept them in the desert for 40 YEARS, instead of 40 DAYS.
He also made sure that the generations that were taken out Egypt never made it to the Holy Land. Only their offspring were allowed to enter the Holy Land.
I've actually done my homework over many decades. Your assuming that I haven't is really where the problems stand. You know nothing about me.
I'm sorry but this is nonsense...
BKG. God has always been satisfied with death and shed blood as an atonement for sin. Both Testaments. In Exodus God set the pattern which remains today. A lamb for a house. A perfect lamb from a families flock back in Exodus and the perfect Lamb of God sacrificed once for all to atone for any man’s sinful nature today. Whosoever will may come. A salvation free for the asking. No works allowed.
In simple terms the old would be of Adam and before Yahuah. I am not a scholar, but I also struggled with the old and new as well and after much study and inner work, I came to know that the old is still important, it is an evolution of us moving through the phases of our privative existence and the harshness needed to purify our souls. What helped me is Peter 3:8 where one day with our Lord is like a 1000 years. So to me the souls journey, aka, our past incarnations on earth, through the journey of our ancestors coded on our DNA, is where we are today. We are at the end days and the most Relevant of the books is Revelations, it talks of pharmacopeia deceiving all the nations etc. and gives us direction on how to battle the evil on the physical plane. It's important to reflect on the older books as this is where we came from and have evolved today. All of the books are 100% relevant as are all of the stories and the stories KJV removed. For example in the beginning Genesis we, men and women, were given dominion by our creator. Genesis is the first trust. Yes this book old and new is a law book. Our trust was stolen by the King and if you look back you'll see the cyclical nature of the corruption of the King. Yet we never learn and collectively ask again and again for a King or some form of Ruler.... The crimes against the children of God, us, are numerous. The plague followed by the fires and the Act of 1666 where the King took all of the land of London. This is real. They blame a single baker for leaving ovens on.... really. Just like lightning and floods are engulfing the lands they are stealing today. This practice of taking what God gave us and enslaving us through commercial means, taxation and commerce, law of water, is where we are today. We are called to get out of her... Get out of Babylon and the corruption that she represents. The turning of the tables, the walking on water. Remember the book was complied by the King and edited many times and critical books were removed. The book so is so much more than what we have been taught through "religion" I personally believe that the word "religion" was created to separate and divide us. We are and were always people of faith and this is what united us. The book is the foundation of Law. Trust law is the highest of all laws followed by Land then water. The King's Coronation oath was for the King to honour and be in service and servitude to our Lord. This is where things are going sideways and as we men and women are waking up and calling to our Lord sharing of all of the misfeasance of the King and his buddies those who are ruling within this Realm. Because you can't see it, try not to underestimate the spiritual battle at hand. Bless you on your journey. I hope this has helped.
They didn't sacrifice to the same Creator that Yeshua did. That's what he was saying to them, they sacrifice to a false god, not the One Creator.
Moses was a prophet who channeled from Yahweh...and ultimately it seems that was usurped by negative beings and used to justify and instigate the murder and pillaging of the people who lived along their desert path. Because they sacrificed innocents, they "fell" losing their connection and tuning into another one. I don't believe the 10 commandments were given by a loving Creator who understood humans, but by negative being(a), as was sin and everything else that goes back to Babylon and Sumeria.
Yeshua (the name Jesus is a form of Zeus) did not need to channel because he ascended, he channeled himself I guess.
Elle. That’s quite a story. Some occult. Some new age. Some whatever from wherever !
Yep. Totally occultish stuff. There is a lot of that here. It's hard to read such convoluted jibberish.
Amen Margaret.
They try to discard the OT because it proves they are lying to you. All they have done is take certain verses out of the NT, then they take them out of context, and embellish them to make them fit with their pagan triune god narrative. But if you actually read ALL of the OT, and you read it carefully, you will see how they are wrong.
The only reason God instructed them to sacrifice animals is because God created humans ABOVE animals, and humans are supposed to conduct themselves like God (in HIS image), not like the animals, who only function on instincts of survival.
When people were sacrificing the animals, they were casting off their "animal" traits, and trying to focus more on their "human" traits, to become more like GOD. That's all that was. God knew what the people were doing, and He knew they needed a physical way to deal with that. Hence the animal sacrifices.
Margaret. That’s a mouthful. But 2 things
1. If it is not in the Old Testament it has no right being in the New.
2. God has ALWAYS been satisfied with death and shed blood to atone for sin. And that began in Genesis when God replaced Adam and Eve’s plant material (fig leaves) with leather.
Interesting. I never have heard of that .
The Jews understand that because they know the REAL Bible. It's been passed down to them from generation to generation since the Torah was first given at Sinai.
It's the lack of knowledge that makes people believe in Christianity. They know nothing of what the Jews know.
Yes, many Jews today have lost their way. They haven't kept up on their history, but for those who have, they know the truth. And when you know the truth, what Christianity teaches just sounds ridiculous.
What's the real bible Margaret? The Tora, The Talmud The Kabala? Do you study these books?
IMO is was part of the false gods worship perhaps being masqueraded as instruction from the Most High
See what you’ve started Greg
Cosmic. Well there you go tipping your hand. Not bad right up until “there is no original sin”. If not for sin at the origins there would be no sin today. But every man on this green orb is born separated from God. Separated from himself and from others. There is no life apart from the breath, the Neshamah of God breathing life into man at man’s creation. Sin entered through disobedience and remains so today. Obeying God in repentance for one’s rebellion against His designed order is the begining of life for that am.
You lost me when you called it a green orb planet Earth the Earth is a flat plane bro you might already read Genesis 1
Jack. Nah. I prefer to live on a globe. But thanks for the suggestion.
If you actually believe that nonsense, then there's no point in trying to explain anything else to you. You need to figure that one out first.
Yes, it's the religion of Paul of Tarsus, but all of Christianity believes that Jesus was their messiah, and that he was sacrificed for their sins. That is so ridiculous, because if you actually know the Hebrew Bible, you will know that no man can be punished for the sins of another.
Deuteronomy 24:16
16Parents shall not be put to death for children, nor children be put to death for parents: a person shall be put to death only for his own crime
A human sacrifice is abhorrent to God. He was angry about the child sacrifices, so why would he "sacrifice" his own "son"???? The people who believe this nonsense are clearly not thinking things through.
God also said not to eat the blood of any animal, because it was the "life" of the animal. Why would he instruct you to "eat" the blood in remembrance of his "son"???
None of it makes any sense. People just need to clear their heads and look further. They've been fed a pack of lies. I do understand, because I was fed lies as a child too, but I also remember asking questions starting at the age of 5, because NONE of Christianity made any sense to me.
Read the Hebrew Bible, without the filter of the NT, and you'll see what I mean.
Jesus is God in the Flesh. It doesn't sound like you have the Tongue of Fire or Helper who opens your eyes to see! He is the last sin offering to end this practice. We now live under his grace because of his death and resurrection
Right on Rob. Margaret is brainwashed into Tora OT, she is blind.
No, the one who is blind is you. You've allowed Christianity to sell you a bill of goods. Now you can't unthink that. That's all this is about.
That's what Christianity wants you to believe. But it's simply not true. Like I said, actually read the Hebrew Bible, without the filter of Christianity. Read what it ACTUALLY says.
You are preaching! When I saw this Scripture clearly, it changed everything for me--this one and after reading 2 Samuel 7. It was clear who the true Messiah is and how the world has been deceived. Thank you.
What is this Hebrew bible you speak of? I assume it's not the Torah? Definitely not the Talmud right??
The Hebrew Bible is what Christians refer to as the Old Testament.
Jesus was born into man, he was NOT man. Hence why he never sinned and remained pure. The blood you speak of is metaphorical but I'm not sure this was ever truly a practice Jesus had done with his apostles. God is real and his son had very real power that changed this world's power distribution further away from demonic influence until Crowley pretty much F-d that up
He wasn’t punished, He came to die to atone for sin. To make a Way back to the Father. Who Loved us first. What other god does that? My God, My Savior. A genuine inquiry to Him if He did this, if He’s who He says He is, and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord & believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, & woth the mouth one confesses and is saved. Romans 10:9-10 God bless you.
Don't waste your time preaching the NT to me. I'm long past that. It's all hogwash.
Still glad this is somewhat of a free country and could share something, and you still have the right to express your opinion. ✌️
Yep. We do have the right to express our opinions, and we also have the right to disagree. I could refute all that you say, but it would take too long. It took me decades of research to reject Christianity. Too many sources to quote here. However, unless someone really wants to learn the truth, and wants to do the work to prove it, they won't believe it anyway. There's a reason why Jews who know their history reject Christianity.
Early Christians were brainwashed. That was a time of very low literacy. If people were not taught the Hebrew Bible by the Jews, or did not read themselves, they were told all sorts of weird stuff. Paul of Tarsus started a lot of the deception, and over centuries, it was built upon, and then embellished.
If you actually know the Hebrew Bible/OT, then when you read through the NT, you will immediately recognize where a lot of things came from in the OT, and will see how the original verses from the Hebrew Bible were totally taken out of context, and then embellished to make an effort to promote their own narrative. That's how it was done.
Most Christians don't read their Bibles at all, and those that do never read the OT. They hear certain verses being taken out of the OT in readings during services, but they never follow along in their own Bibles, so they don't see how key verses were intentionally left out of those readings, in order to sway the thinking of the congregants. If you actually know the verses they intentionally leave out, it's pretty obvious. Most Christian ministers/pastors, etc., actually know their congregants don't read their own Bibles, so they know they can do this all the time, and the people will be none the wiser.
No, it wasn't. The word 'Christian' was given to those who followed Yahusha (His name is not Jesus) and those who followed Him were called Believers of The Way. Real truth and history has been buried and we have to search for it in His Word, not getting what fallen, corruption men call 'truth'...
FTW. Nice. But I still prefer the English, Jesus. I don’t want to sound like an educated egghead with my Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.
God does not have a name, those are slanderous just as the catholic church
No, they spoke Greek. Therefore the translations of NT are in Greek NOT Hebrew, that ol' dead language which was resurrected in the 1800s.
That's absolutely correct, Cosmic. In my opinion, of all the lies we've been told over the eons in this realm, Original Sin is the biggest one of all (with Theory of Evolution, the founding of the United States, the US Civil War, how who actually won WW2, how and why 9/11 happeed and who really did it, and of course, the the onset of Coronavirus and the subsequent Plandemic, among countless other deceptions. The Truth there is that we did not "fall," rather Prime Creator fragmented itself out of perfect, unending Love and Unity beyond time and form, in orderr to experience and learn from fear and seperation. We DID however forget who and what we really are - but that isn't entirely our fault either, as we were litterally made to forget by the Dark/Service-to-Self ET's, and their human minions (the elite Satanists with whom we continue to fight today), both through genetic alterations, tags and seals on our Light Bodies, and the propaganda of the Abrahamic religions and modern science, education, and entertainment. Fortunately, we are in the time of Awakening, where folks like you and me and the poeple watching videos like this and countless others are waking up to the Truth of many many things about ourselves and our collective story. Anyways, stay strong and stay in the Light, Brother! The Dark IS losing, and we got this!😀 💪
Thanks brother ! Keep walking in the light.
Nonsense
Thank you ★☝️🏼🙏🏻
Yeah? And 700 years of wars by division. We didn't pick the fight, but you bastards who tolerate and thereby promote and propagate it are just as blood guilty. Always looking to live forever.
The book
The Two Babylons is a good read
You clearly don't know the history of Christianity. The RCC IS Christianity. That's where it started. The word "catholic" means "universal". The Roman "catholic" church was once known as the Roman "universal" church. It was cemented into a religion at the council of Nicaea in 325 CE. Since then, there have been many offshoots, it's still all Christianity. Jesus is still their savior. The one they call their Messiah. That has not changed. That is what Christianity is based on, and it's all lies. Judaism rejects this because they know it's all lies.
Well bless your heart Margaret. I will not engage in a pissing contest with any Catholic. What may interest you however is that when one knows both Who and What Israel is from the entire scope and viewpoint of Scripture then it is easy to weed out the man made traditions and mountains of occult lies and scams from over the last 2000 years since Calvary. Additionally I would bet that you do not know where Jesus is at this minute, what He is doing and under what authority His is doing it.
Begin there without your RCC tradition and without Christ still hanging on a cross, and you may BEGIN to get a glimpse of truth.
PS. Not fair to ask a priest of that damnable and cursed religion. Research this yourself. .
I'm not Catholic and I'm not Christian. Read my other posts in this long thread.
Jesus is in his grave. He was no messiah. He was just a rebel in his time, and ended up getting crucified because that's what the Romans did to people like him, so raised so much unrest.
Again, read my other comments in this thread. You'll see that we actually agree. I believe in Judaism. I know where it came from. I also know where Christianity came from, and yes, it's all occultish nonsense.
Well that you are not Catholic is a breath of fresh air for me. And still hope for you. I’d rather go to guns with atheists. They are all the same and easy peasy for Christians to win. They are all self-worshippers and are fond of declaring “I am my own god”. In your case I am not surprised at your attraction to Judaism. That seems to be a default position on the way to Christ the Messiah and deliverer of Israel. The world is indeed full of many voices. Most unreliable if not deadly. Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God. If you have never asked Him to prove Himself to you, to your satisfaction and accordion your criteria, then ask Him. The Holy Spirit loves to answer those kind of questions. And the HS is always a gentleman.
Along the way ask Him Who Israel is, why He created Israel and for what specific purpose. It’s astounding. And life altering.
Ah, a Judiazer, they are a contemptable lot.
LOL. Wow. Talk about not knowing who and what you actually serve.
We are NOT Catholics nor do we believe in their occult practices. STOP calling Christian's Catholics, we are Christians!
Yes precisely, this "universal" branch(lol) -Catholicism, the reason so many stray away from God, I have immense distain for that blasphemy
Catholicism IS Christianity. It’s the mother of all Christian sects.
Thats disgustingly false, you ever look into the first middle english bible? Maybe why it was such a crazy feat?? Oh no because you believe the english 'church' was of God??????? Try again lady, its pissing me off you want to say that when those same slanderers killed innocents just for trying to learn to read their corrupted writings rather than William Tyndale's true bible he was banished from britian for trying to write for the serfs. Maybe learn some history before you start trashing sticks with a giant mf log in your head. This type of manipulation is why the OT is NOT the Hebrew bible, it is a rendition that i hope is close enough in my 1611 bible
What the hell are you talking about. Yes, Catholicism IS Christianity. And it has NOTHING to do with Britain? Why are you going on about Britain?
And FYI, I'm NOT a Christian. I do, however, know where Christianity started, and how many splinters broke out from it. First was Luther, then many others started. Then along came evangelicalism, then along came all the so-call "non-denominational" mega churches.
The Hebrew is the ONLY Bible that I believe in. It was written in Hebrew, and was translated by people who actually knew Hebrew.
The entire NT is nothing but fabricated nonsense. The authors took verses out of the Hebrew Bible, then took them out of context, and then embellished them to create a totally different narrative. It's not hard to figure out. If you actually know the Hebrew Bible, then if you read the NT, then you will recognize which verses came out of the Hebrew Bible, and you will instantly see how the authors of the NT totally bastardized those verses. That's my point.
THE catholic church started and grew its power where? IN BRITAIN, if you knew as much as you claim this would be no argument point
ouch... your sword is sharp....
I only know that once I lived a life that excluded Jesus Christ. Then one day I spoke some simple words reaching out to Him and my life changed. That's been nearly 50 years ago. Between the two; living without Jesus and living with Him there is no comparison. How one does convince another that Jesus Christ is real? I'm not sure it can be done except by an individual personal experience. I can't deny what I've come to know, nor can I forget that Jesus Christ has been my one constant solace through everything.
One can absolutely reason with and encourage another person to repent and turn to Jesus, and it happens every day. That being said, we partner with God's Holy Spirit, as God is the one to quicken their souls. The Bible says that people come to Him through the preaching of God's word. I've lead two of my three children to Christ, and have prayed with others to receive Christ as well. We preach the word, and God is responsible for the rest. Our faith is based on evidence and reason, and our personal experiences with God are also part of our testimony. Thank you for sharing yours.
Yes, I agree with that and have done that many times. I've spoken Scripture as the Holy Spirit led in hopes the hearer will hear, then take the further step to listen, and from there begin their own journey. I prayed before I posted my comment to ask Jesus what should I say that isn't an argument against something but rather something that presents you Jesus. This is the direction I was led. I presented in a condensed version my own life experience, minus the multitude of details that have proven to me that Jesus Christ is real and has always been as I said my one constant solace in so many ways throughout my almost 50 years.
Amen to that Kathy. You are among the called. You have been chosen.
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Good one Kath
There are some who doubt it, but their doubt does not negate God's existence. The whole creation declares that God does exist. I cant make anyone believe and no one can make me believe that Jesus Christ doesnt exist as He has proven Himself to me far too many times to doubt Him.
Until you meet the risen one , you have no idea of the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. , but until u do …
Yes, best to keep it simple. We are not confused to who Jesus is. The Lord of Lords and the King of all Kings. Go to the top for advise.
HE is THE I AM ! Exodus 3:14
U bet He is!! PTL!!
John 8:58 "I am" is not a claim to be either God or YHVH. Jesus does not quote Exodus 3:14.
The blind man at John 9:9 says exactly what Jesus said at John 8:58.
Let's look.
John 8:58 ἐγὼ εἰμί~I am.
John 9:9 ἐγώ εἰμι~I am.
Exodus 3:14 first "I am" phrase
Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν~I am who is.
Jesus didn't say this.
Second "I am" phrase in the same verse
Ὁ ὢν~who is. Translated as "I am."
Jesus didn't say this either.
In Greek "I am" is ego eimi.
Jesus did not quote Exodus 3:14. If I am is a claim to be God or YHVH, you need to explain away the claim of the blind man of being God, YHVH, or both.
Jesus DENIED being God.
Luke 18:19
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Jesus just DENIED BEING God!
He basically said ”There is none good but God, and I’m NOT GOD
John 8:42
“Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for *I proceeded forth and came from God;* neither came I of myself, but he sent me.”
Jesus is the messenger of God.
“neither came I of myself” is a denial of being God.
Jesus never claimed to be God; only the SON OF God.
The apostles said Jesus was The SON OF God, as did the demons who encountered Jesus. None of them claimed Jesus was God the Father, The Most High God.
Jesus & Apostles said God was His Father, and our father.
John 20:17, Romans 15:6, 2 Corinthians 11:31, Ephesians 1:3, Galatians 1:4
Jesus said His Father was Greater than Himself. A high priest has a God above him, therefore Jesus is Not the Most High. John 14:28, John 10:29.
God raised Jesus from the dead.
God healed the sick & raised the dead through Jesus & the 12 apostles. Romans 10:9, Romans 8:11, Galatians 1:1, Romans 6:4, John 14:10, Ephesians 1:20
Jesus said that by Himself, He could do NOTHING.
John 5:30, John 8:28
Jesus cried out on the cross “MY GOD, MY GOD, Why has thou forsaken me?
Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
*If Jesus is just YHWH in a body, then why would YHWH pray to himself asking himself if there was another way besides crucifixion to atone for the sins of the world, in the Garden? Praying desperately to himself for himself to find another way so he won’t have to sacrifice himself as the lamb of himself.*
(Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:42, Mark 14:36, Luke 22:42)
*That sounds schizophrenic in the EXTREME and bipolar to me. It is CONFUSION!*
According to Scripture, Jesus was perfected on the cross, and LEARNED OBEDIENCE on the cross. Obedience to whom? Is God obedient to anyone?
Luke 13:32, Hebrews 2:10, Hebrews 5:8-9
This spells out who the *ONE God* is: 1 Corinthians 8:6
“But to us *there is but one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we in him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we by him.”
One God = The Father, YHWH Elohim
One Lord = Jesus Christ, Yeshua Elohim
Matthew 26:53
“Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he (YHWH) shall presently give me (Jesus) more than twelve legions of angels?”
If Jesus was God as you claim, why would Jesus need to ask anyone for angels (Matthew 26:53)? YHWH God created the angels (before Jesus was BEGOTTEN in heaven) & commands the angels. Jesus hasn’t created any angels yet that can be found in scripture.
According to scripture, Jesus is NOT OMNISCIENT, NOT OMNIPOTENT. Do you believe God is Omnipotent & omniscient?
Jesus isn’t all-knowing (Omniscient) as He admits in John 5:20. YHWH still has much to teach/show His Firstborn SON, Jesus:
John 5:20
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and *he will shew him greater works than these,* that ye may marvel.
By claiming Jesus is God, you remove our MELCHIZEDEK HIGH PRIEST, our intercessor TO GOD, our intercessor BETWEEN God and man. Jesus sits at the Right Hand of God.
1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God (YHWH) and one mediator between God (YHWH) and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
Hebrews 5:9-10, Hebrews 9:11-15, Romans 8:34, Hebrews 7:24-25, 1 John 2:1-2, John 17:20-21, Hebrews 4:14-15, Hebrews 9:24, Colossians 3:17.
* How can Jesus be High Priest & intercessor to Himself? It’s confusing nonsense.
John 14:6
“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
This verse is nonsense if Jesus is the Father. It makes perfect sense if Jesus is The Firstborn Son of God, as He claimed. Primogeniture plays a part here, and most Christians today are ignorant of Biblical Primogeniture (Law of The Firstborn).
Exodus 3:14 is GOD speaking to Moses…
What do you think about the many revisions to the KJV? about the letter "J" only being 500 years old replacing the letters "dg" and of the Celtic deity Esus? Exodus 23:13
John1:12, Romans 10:13, Act 4:12, Proverbs 18:10
Without question…
https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/exodus/exodus-23.cfm
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There will be great nashing of teeth when the truth is fully known and out there...
People have taken what they think is truth without question because they where told not to question.... the day is coming ...
Well said, I listened to a reformed satanist years ago who participated in sacrifices for years. He claimed the when you go into a church to pray, any church your prayers are going to satan. It's all a ruse.
Agree. Organized Religion is simply a cover for organized crime. With that said, well intending men and women are oblivious and benefit. This is the root of the ongoing Genocide where the State parties known as the Crown Corporations, Canada, Australia and US attempted to irradicate the indigenous peoples. Kevin Annett exposed much of this and has held International Trials...all hush hush. He continues to expose it. He wrote books and exposed so much look at UNREPENTANT is a good documentary. He is a protected man of God.
Greg, you do great work, but you haven't done your homework on this one. Catholic tradition and the King James Bible are two entirely different things. It's fair enough if you want to document the syncretism of Catholicism, but don't impute that syncretism to the Bible in any way. I'm a student of the biblical text and what you are saying here about the Bible is also utterly without merit. I can't respond to every argument you make, but let us consider the cross. It doesn't matter what it represents as an ancient solar symbol. Lots of things are shaped like a cross. The relevant aspect is that it was a mechanism of torture used by the Romans, and that it was used by the Romans to crucify the Son of God. THAT defines its meaning for genuine Christians, regardless of the manner in which crosses are used anywhere else. If you are trying to defeat the reality of salvation in Jesus Christ, may God grant you the grace to see that you are on a dangerous path. You have said before that your spiritual perspective is based on a lived reality. But both sides have an experiential reality to them. That is not what is determinative of truth. When we stand before God to account for our sins, there are those whose sins will, in Christ, have been forgiven, and there are those whose sins will not. It all comes down to the question - how do we get rid of the sin from which we are unable to extricate ourselves. If we hold ourselves to the standard of absolute moral righteousness, what on earth do we do with our guilt? God bless.
The argument is this: "Greg, you do great work, but ...... not when you address my brand of mind virus religion." Blah, blah, blah ....... circular logic and coping machanisms for utter failures and full on retreat on all fronts, add in some likes and a few other commentators of this variety "Yeahhhh"......
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O2Z7Gn3NQDM?feature=share
Bless you my son!
Christmas trees, Easter eggs, rabbits and Santa Claus… no one venerated “the cross” in the Bible either.
As you aptly attest, “The relevant aspect is that it was a mechanism of torture used by the Romans, and that it was used by the Romans to crucify the Son of God.”
If one thinks deeply, if Jesus was killed today by a gun, would they worship that too?
You’ve proven out your own argument of “syncretism”; pagan symbols of worship have indeed been overlaid on the Bible, obscuring the truth. When the “implement of Jesus murder” is venerated, when clearly the Bible doesn’t teach that, but cross worship does have pagan origins and meaning, doesn’t that bother you?
Biblical Christians don't worship crosses. And you don't understand logic.
Agreed, true followers of Christ would never worship crosses. Isn’t that the point?
I apologize if I have misunderstood you, RF. I'm not sure I understand the point you are making - can you restate it please?
Excellent reply. It’s like listening to lectures by 5th graders
Excellent post - your second sentence - "Catholic tradition and the King James Bible are two entirely different things." You said it perfectly. Our beloved KJB is The Bible, not a "version". Thanks for your post!
Wasn't it rewritten by... King James? If it was rewritten how can it be an original?
No it’s not. The KJV was written in 1605. The Catholic Bible with all 72 books canonized at the Councils of Hippo & Carthage in 394 & 397 AD respectively. You sound like a 5th grader.
Study study and you'll learn.
More low IQ.
You nned to do your own homework... Think about it... The world did not start 2025 years ago... unless, you want to keep being Gregg's opposition. Show us your money and I'll show you who you serve.
I have no money.
Everything we have been taught is a lie! The story of Christ has been told over and over for thousands of years. It’s a tool to control the masses and support the churches greed. When the truth is truly released many will loose their minds.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Unfortunately Christianity is a religion ABOUT Jesus instead of what he taught. Ironically, Christians know hardly anything about The Son of Man.
I'm not sure how you can broad brush millions of people and say that they know hardly anything about Him. I know quite a few people who follow His words closely and mirror Him in almost every aspect of their lives. Sure there are many hypocrites and dead churches out there, but in my experience, I have met people who faithfully love and serve God by loving and serving "the least of these."
Firstly, most Christians follow in the religious footsteps of their parents and have never even read the Bible. Secondly, even if they did, there is is very little information in it about the life of Jesus, what he taught and thought and how he lived his life.
Great comment. Most, indeed, have not read the book they profess to follow. I had a little tiff just this morning when I stated I do not believe the book is the word of god and cited several examples. The person referenced The Chosen show in her response argument, not even the Bible. A show from television. Giant eye-roll. Even I have read the Bible and I am not a Christian. It was extremely violent….just sayin’.
We're all controlled by something. I'm thankful to be controlled by the one who gave His all for my sake because of love. Please Jesus control me more until I'm no longer resistant.
My comment was aimed at sharing thoughts of the religious deceptions man easily follows. And I have prayed extensively on this subject. Christianity teaches us righteousness behavior, that is a feel good behavioral trait to maintain (good karma) that is good. BUT it also teaches Jesus died for our sins because we are unworthy pieces of sh-t God created man and all that is as Christianity teaches. So if god is perfect why would he judge those unworthy to a lake of fire unless they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Sure feels like the evil one has Christians praying to a false god hidden in their righteous feel good behavior. Why don’t you ask Jesus if he is a god or teacher. Recognize yer fear to even question if Jesus is yer lord and savior. God does not work in fear but evil does in my beliefs. If Christianity was an onion and you peeled off the layers of righteousness you come down to the center that’s fear based (eternal damnation in a lake of fire unless you believe) how stupid why would a loving god create such pain. I believe god is within all that is and we are one in spirit, quiet your mind and listen. Christianity does not teach meditation (how to connect with yer inner self) it deceives one from connecting to our inner self that is connected to all that is (God) That is my thoughts.
💯 truth right there! We're taught from birth to constantly look outside of ourselves and not to rely on ourselves, this is the reason humanity is so easily manipulated and controlled! I question the hell out of everything! I don't think that a loving God is in control of this world because if he was in control would life be so hard and feel like a living hell? Would babies and children be sex trafficked, sodomized and have the blood drained from their bodies along with their flesh to get consumed by monster vampires that only appear human and look like human beings? I don't see or understand how a loving God would allow and tolerate such atrocities being done to his creation! I see humanity living in a realm of hell all because Eve made mistake in the garden while this so-called "loving God" sits back on his throne watching his creation(us humans)suffer such painful and hard lives struggling just to survive while at the same time we are asking "why" and "please help us" and we only get traumatized with more suffering and hardship from all of the hate in this world! None of it makes any sense to me! I don't know what's truly in control, but it can't be a loving God that truly loves his creation!
I appreciate this conversation that we are sharing. Why? Because I see by your words that you are seeking and questioning; each one of us should do that. Even after reaching what one believes is truth, there remain questions; to me that is what produces growth. I have asked Jesus and the answer for me is that He is both God and teacher, and much more. Christianity does teach us to meditate, albeit, not in the new age sense or however one defines it.. David the king of Israel speaks about this in some of the Psalms. I do it myself, except I call it communing, which is what I do when having a conversation with Jesus Christ that is often question filled about a variety of issues. Sometimes I just sit quietly in contemplation. As for the subject of the lake of fire, and the why, I could offer some responses, but I think it best for you to search it out because my response might not adequately give you the answer you're seeking. Again, it's good to have a reasonable conversation with a fellow human being who seeks.
What proof do you have of Jesus being crucified. Truth is you don’t. If god created man and all that is. Well then obviously god f-cked up Why would a loving god put his creation into an environment that man would fail at so miserably and then be judged for his failures and thrown into an eternal pit of fire unless he worships his son Evil one is the ultimate deceiver. Fear is the basis of Christianity hidden in the righteousness of the religion. All religions are man’s religions. To believe there is an actual religious godly scriptures that have not been manipulated is foolishness
I'll answer your question with this question. What proof do you have that Jesus Christ wasnt crucified? Why don't you try asking Him instead of me. My simple statement was this, that we're all controlled by something to some degree. If, Jesus Christ doesn't exist why do you care if I believe He does and choose to be controlled by Him rather than something or someone else?
100%
What’s the truth then?
I'm with George Carlin, I worship the sun as it comes up everyday( when not obscured by chemtrails) and asks for nothing. but I pray to Joe Pesci as he answers my prayers about 50% of the time.
I LOVE it Ron!
What if George Carlin WAS the Messiah, and "They knew him not"? ;)
Unless he was the devil incarnate.
"Unless he was the devil incarnate."
No, that's Trump.
👏 love George Carlin! He told us the truth! "It's a biiiig club and you ain't in it!" and "the truth is, is that were all fucked!" 😆
Here's one for you Ami./Users/laurazaglio/Desktop/thumbnail_IMG_5062.jpg
You jut haven’t met HIM yet
You have no idea of what you are saying. Here is a good way to realize the truth with a real archeologist. https://youtube.com/@expeditionbible?si=_3YsthOE8ekWPMId
How do you know the Bible is true?
There are many ways to know the Bible is true. Archaeology, the way the Bible is written, the testimony of many being in agreement, the foreknowledge of God (prophecies being written hundreds of years before the events actually happened, the miracles of Jesus, the enigma of the Jews, science and the like. Read Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell, or Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. Ask God to make Himself known to you and to open your eyes.
I have no doubt the creator is real. The other stories, not so much.
Great question. And your statement about everything being a lie is an honest observation. Too many people have quick one line platitudes without understanding history and context.
Cognitive dissonance is painful for some to overcome when bringing true observation into connection with long held cherished beliefs handed down through family and tradition.
Religion has always been a tool used by enemies of truth, to control and blind people. (The Bible in fact teaches this)
That doesn’t mean, however, that there isn’t Truth. But to find it, we need to get busy and dig for it like we would a hidden treasure.
Blind belief is dangerous and foolish. In fact, most things people think they know or believe about the Bible, aren’t actually in the Bible… most people I’ve met haven’t read it through, or even own one.
My advice, in all sincerity to the question… avoid people that provide unhelpful one line and meaningless platitudes they can’t explain or demonstrate.
But prove the Bible True (or false) for yourself, by first making a start to read it thoroughly all the way through. Start with the Gospels— Mathew, Mark, Luke, John. Next read Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Soloman. Then read Genesis on, and re-read from start to finish. This is just a suggestion.
Find and use a Bible to read that is in your language. For us English speakers, that isn’t the King James… 13th century English is difficult to grasp, and is not our language today. Use a Bible that’s in modern English. I appreciate the history of The King James and I use for reference, but no one talks that way today. I use and compare multiple English translations, but you can find the Bible in almost every language of the earth today. Find an easy to read translation that you can enjoy reading (but not paraphrased, you do want an accurate rendering from the original languages)
(Just to preempt negative comments, the KJ translation is not the original Bible, it’s a translation commissioned in the 13th century by King James. The original languages were Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
Some proofs to me that the Bible is true:
— Flood event. Known in every civilization in their oral history. Supported by archaeology and probably why carbon dating is way off. Explains why they find ocean fossils in all sorts of odd places.
— Prophecy fulfilled…
— Scientifically accurate
— Historically verbose and detailed with people, places, dates all well supported by secular history and archaeology. (As opposed to myths and stories with minimal anchors to the real world, eg. “Once upon a time in a place far far away” nice story, not provable without historical markers)
— Candor… nothing is covered up, but it’s all transparent and laid bare… it’s told the way it is, the good, the bad, the ugly
Most outstanding to me, though…. Is the moral lessons of life that transcend time and culture.
Exactly! The Bible is the most translated and edited book on this planet! It's just not logical to believe that the Bibles we have today are 100% accurate! Maybe at one time the Bible was accurate! All we have today is copies of kazillon copies of the Bible! I look at and question that library that existed in ancient times in Alexandria, Egypt and what manuscripts and information was available in that library! The Romans confiscated everything and then burnt the library down and vast amounts of vital information disappeared from humanity and the Romans still control that information today and it's all locked away, probably, in the Vatican's library! As Graham Hancock says "humanity is a species with amnesia" and he's 💯 right as we don't know where we came from, why we're here, the true purpose to any of this because the history that we've been taught is lies and humanity is too dumbed down from the poisons in our air, food and water to understand the truth about anything and humanity is constantly being manipulated!
Watch the channel that I post. Expedition bible on YouTube.
Thats easy. Faith. Faith in God and not in men. May God be true and every man a liar. Not my words - God's words.
Will you me among those who lose their minds Sheryl?
No
“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.” John 18:37 KJV
https://peter70x7.substack.com/p/last-call-to-repent-from-ishtar-sunday
Great job Greg. I sure miss Jordan Maxwell, I always enjoyed his talks and info. Boy is religion confusing. Glad I just stick with Jesus, the Father, Mary and the HS. Best to keep it simple and go to the top for answers and guidance.
What’s your point? You just gave a bunch of information
My goal as a reporter is to deliver information without trying to make a point. The recipient is capable of doing that on their own.
Me thinks you're trying to " point " that The Bible who is Jesus Christ in printed format is " not " true. That's simply "The Point " that comes out of this reporting. If that's not the case how about you be on the search for reporting of veracity of The Bible and don't involve anything to do with CC, that's a challenge you're probably not interested in. A Roman ruler once asked "What is truth?" ,when The revealed Truth was standing alive in front of him.
Well said. Of course that is what he is doing. He’s just not man enough to admit it. He should stick to conspiracies. When it comes to theology he is in kindergarten.
Greg might be afraid of the challenge, he is a bold individual but that could change everything, the farm into a garden, The Creator into My Saviour, My God, celibacy Into a family.....
Hi Greg. I totally loved it - its like nouishment for my aching soul. By the way - Rudolf Steiner is also a vast wealth of knowledge on these topics.
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But you can’t make a point when you haven’t a clue of what ur talking about. “Better for a wise man to stay silent than to speak out & make fools of themselves.”
Yup that's what you do. Serve food for thought. Still great digging up and imagery video.
Keep us thinking Greg. LOL Great job.
Classic Greg… constantly saying ” I don’t know” & “I’m just a creature and a loner”
I’m convinced he doesn’t believe
He is coming from Jordan Maxwell, Santos Bonaci and Zeigeist point of view, and is all wrong.
I listened to Jordon on Jeff Rense for years. He was an interesting guy. But like many others he was ignoring his own death. A conspiracy researcher venturing into theology is a fish out of water.
Excellent comment.
I went to Catholic school all the way through the end of high school. I learned a lot about Catholic church and to make it short and simple, Greg Reese is telling the absolute truth. It's why I left Catholic church long ago. Catholic church is not what we have been told in the past.
Yes, Catholicism is not real Christianity.
Amen.
It’s the “One & Only True Church” founded by Christ himself over 2,000 yrs/ago. Your world/history started in 1517 AD. Protestantism wasn’t even a trickle down Luther’s leg until then.
Who fought the Crusades, who fought the Ottomans (Leponto/Vienna) saving the world from Islamic take over. Catholics. Protestants during the Ottoman invasion refused to help Europe.
They were too busy screwing each others wives & warring against themselves. I find this site attracts very low IQ types & thinking. 5th Grade level knowledge. It’s embarrassing & boring!
Wrong again.
Yeah, go back to 5th grade level Bible School theology. It suits you.
No it’s not. Stop being a 5th grader. It’s pedantic & pathetic.
Oh Mr. Greg. You really opened the can of worms on this one. Albeit, the perfect example of why religion is one of the most destructive constructs to ever exist. How about maybe every one of you are completely wrong? As a three time survivor of what the misinformed call “near-death-experiences”, I can accurately tell you that many of the people on the comments are completely wrong about it all. The problem here is ALL Bibles were written by humans with a desire to control others. Sure, there are some accurate verses of Jesus’ words but, much of it is just as the creator has said… “They have twisted my words and got me all wrong”. Maybe visit NDERF website or watch some NDE interviews on YouTube instead of fighting over some misconstrued wording that was written centuries ago and twisted many times by every control freak who got the chance. How do you know if the NDEs are real? If the person claims they were sad about their life being over, worried about family members, or lamented when they say their lifeless body, close it and move on to the next one. Those emotions and feelings are non-existent in the afterlife.
I agree. Seems such an obvious way to control the masses. And it still works so well.
We have the ability to connect directly with the creator of this universe, and yet many prefer a middleman.
You sound like you're into New Age.
The requirements are much simpler than has been written in the Bible. We are supposed to love and help all people as best we can. Forgiveness is very important as well as if we wish to be forgiven, we must forgive. I, myself had many struggles with forgiveness of off the ways I have been wronged. Once I understood ego and how it prevents not only love for others but, true forgiveness, my struggles were over. In any and all situations, I seek enlightenment by introspection and quickly realize I am the problem.
That’s true but, sadly, I once believed the same. It’s not people’s fault they have been misled. It is their choice to seek the truth or not.
Jesus Christ is NO construct, although I recognize your preference to believe so. Pray you open your soul where only the Holy Spirit fits to be filled with the 'All-Encompassing Fire of God's Love' through the Holy Spirit...Completely under the control of Jesus Christ.
While sounding 'New Age,' you also sound to be still searching and hoping your heart is opened to requesting Jesus to allow his Holy Spirit to fill you...So, your journey with Him begins. With Jesus, first comes the request for faith, the acceptance, before it is given. THAT IS THE LEAP OF FAITH.
The existence of a counterfeit $20 bill does not negate the value of a real $20 bill. The existence of a counterfeit $20 bills also does not by extension mean that all $20 bills must be counterfeit. Lucifer/Satan/the Devil has no power to create, only to counterfeit. All of the counterfeits described here are just that -- the enemy's attempt to confuse those who do not personally know The Real by generating thousands of years of direct counterfeits does NOT negate the reality of the True and Living God, His only True Begotten Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and His own Holy Spirit shed abroad into the inner heart of all those who lay hold of Him by faith. The difference, missed by this attempt to say that there is no difference, between the counterfeit and The Real is the ability of The Real to totally transform the hearts and the lives of those who respond to the pull of the Holy Spirit to give themselves wholly and completely to The Real that is only resident in and manifest through The Lord Jesus Christ. That does not mean intellectual acceptance of Christian "religion" or even "theology" -- which are sometimes also just deceptive counterfeits arising from the great deceiver and counterfeiter. NONE of the elaborate counterfeits can transform -- including, perhaps especially, those veiled in a thin veneer of "Christianity," regardless of how grandiose their buildings, how flamboyant their attire, or how elaborate their liturgies. Quite the opposite. ANY of the counterfeits referred to here, including those with a veneer of "Christianity," always and only lead to places of great darkness, despair, and often degeneracy -- clearly manifest throughout history in every culture that has ever been built around any of the counterfeits.
Yes! Thank you, well said.
Well said.
Nice try to make Christianity a farce and descendant of paganism. The truth of the matter is just the opposite, not to say that the RCC was a true church because it wasn’t. Satan copied true Christianity and has made a substitute which has damned many. Some of us know the truth. A good primer would be Ivan Hyslops “ The Two Babylons”.
It’s the only one & true Church established by Christ himself
Everyone always says "Well nobody knows what's going to happen", but we do!
The Christians are going to destroy the World as we know it.
Well, not just the Christians, but all the llluminati created religions that have a pre-programmed horrific, apocalyptic, hell-on-Earth endtimes programmed into it.
That way, all the Evil have to do is set off a couple 'prophesies' (which they wrote) and suddenly 2billion Christians, 2billion Muslims, and who knows how many Jews, are all going to begin holding a collective vision of a horrific, apocalyptic, hell-on-Earth.
And what will happen to the Earth?
Hundreth Monkey come to mind?
Dude the bots are arguing and shit all over , this is hilarious.
I should just copy-pasta some story and see what happen.
OH ! i know a time traveler story would be nice !
"Dude the bots are arguing and shit all over"
I KNOW!!!
Where the hell did they come from Kell?!??
Clearly they are not Conspiracy Theorists.
Why are they HERE on the Greese channel?!??
the NATO psyops warrior still think Greg works for INFOWARS ! hahahahhahahaha , the USAID speech enemy list has not being updated.
Greg took a shitlib turn , even attack Alex J, his old boss , for clout. . . . his twitter is retarded . . . but yet i love the guy am like him , a nerdy weirdo hermit who pretend to play music and video games. I forgive him for his Trump TDS .
I forgive and still love him (no homo) . CHRIST IS KING😎
Remember a few weeks ago when Greg said :"There was no more conspiracy" Well thats laziness talking i see new shit every other days. I hop he goes after the Joo and Muslims everyone deserve to be knock a few pegs . . . For science(laughs) and world peace of course. Its good cause.
It will be Christianity like Jehovah Witnesses & now Evangelicals, which I can no longer tell the difference, which will destroy the world. Keep talking or attempt to build a third Temple, which was tried before in 284 AD by the Emperor Julian the Apostate & ended in utter calamity. See how fast the whack job Kenny Dopelands, Paula Whites & windbag Hagees set the world ablaze with nonsensical, non Scriptural eschatology. It’s called Schofield Biblicism made up in the 1830s.
Yeah dude for everyone yapping about how counterfeit everything is they sure never address The Schofield episode i mean ....... its not a matter of opinion we have receipts and "chain of custody" more and more i feel the Greeks were really diligent.
Or "Divorce?" You notice many are divorced & remarried several times over. They conveniently leave that out of their sermons. I see it all over SM. "Meet my 3rd wife & don't forget to buy our Rune stone crystals which will protect you from 5G." What a joke! Hypocrites & Christ mongers.
Alright that was kool , now deconstruct Islam and all the Jewish cults.
We both know u wont dare upset the apple cart.
Link to Jordan Maxwell lecture >>>>>
https://youtu.be/RCz_WQ92w20?feature=shared
I appreciate Jordan Maxwell's keen mind. His observations are fascinating. However, when I read the Book of John, I struggle to conceive of Christ merely as some type of symbolic, mythological archetype of the sun. He appears to be a real person who believed himself to be the Son of God (our Creator), and who came with a mission to save us from God's wrath after our fall. Our "leaders," our "elites," obviously possessed of the same spirit of the serpent in Genesis, encourage us to repeat the same original sin today--if we transgress God's will (now framed in trans-humanist terms), we can become as gods, and live forever. I may have been vulnerable to such temptations before 2020, but I just can't anymore. I pray for God's wisdom and discernment every day. For I know I have little.
If you want to learn so much more about the Roman Catholic Church. I was born and raised in a very strict Catholic Church. I converted to the Protestant church at 22. I got books about Babylon and pagan works in the Catholic Church. All church's are controlled by a false religion. It's very sad that it wasn't until I was 30 until I got out of all the pagan churches. I'm 67 now, and this Jesus they teach today is the god Zeus. I zues. The real God man was Yahusha Hamashiah. Paleo Hebrew Aramaic. Constantine successfully created a new religion and 1/3 of those on earth have no idea they worship and live for Saturn/Satan. Why would the creator of all things need you and me to bow down and worship him. What does he get out of it?? Only a lesser god like Lucifer would want this. Open your eyes to see what is plainly in front of you. Israel Fake Jews are the same way. It's so pathetic to create God in man's image, but they all succeeded and have total control over so many. Get your wallet out and pay for your forgiveness. 😂 So pathetic!
Sounds like you converted to a Jehovah Witness
I see things based on too many facts. Zionists are around 150 yrs to date. Cyrus Scofield gave America their orders for believing Jews are chosen somehow by twisting Scripture and adding footnotes for pastors today to teach. 1908 Moody Bible Institute printed and spread Zionism. I'm of no religious organization. If anything, I'm agnostic. I see the purest as misled and so many others indoctrinated by man's attempt to create God in their image. I hope you aren't one of those kind.
Just the opposite. You said in your earlier post that Constantine created a "new" religion? Constantine didn't create or institute the Church. It was around nascently for over 200 yrs prior. He was merely an emperor who favored the stability of Christianity over paganism. He was a catechumen while he was emperor, His mother was a Christian. Helena (St. Helena) which his father Constantius was forced to divorce because he was one of the Tetrarchs who ruled Gaul & the Emperor of Rome, Diocletian, was persecuting Christians at the time. It was politically dangerous for them both in the era. Yeah, he favored Christianity, can't blame him. He didn't want to see his mama fed to the lions. Constantine didn't even get Baptized until several months before his death.
Hence, why I asked if you were a JW. That's made-up ignorant history straight from one of their propagandist prayer tract screeds. History is important. Know it, love it, learn from it.
So what would you study/learn from if you didn't want to actually be worshipping 'Satan'? Serious question?
Thank you, I agree with everything you said. I went to Catholic school all the way up until I graduated from high school. What you have said is exactly what I also discovered and why I left Catholic church. I'm so glad this is starting to come out now.